#2389 - Sal Vulcano

[00:00] Joe Rogan podcast check it out the Joe Rogan experience train by day Joe Rogan podcast by night all day. [00:11] Yep. What's up? What's up? When was the last time I saw you? It was I was here promoting my special man. It was June of last year. [00:21] Damn, time flies. Yeah, yeah. A fucking whole year. A year plus. I've had another child since then, even. Oh, my goodness. Congratulations. Thank you, dude. Look at you out there breeding. Right. Contributing to the population. How old are you? I'll be 49 in November. Did you do the math when your kid's 20? Bro, I've done every piece of math you could do. It's depressing. You've got to get healthy. Yeah. No, I am. That's exactly what happened. Yeah. I started with a trainer four weeks ago and just did all this blood work and taking all [00:51] tests and stuff now just because I'm like, I have to. Yeah. I have to be here as long as possible. It changes the game when you have children. Yeah. You can fuck off and do coke and heroin and fucking sleep. Yeah. Luckily, I wasn't doing that. No, but as soon as you have a kid, you're like, oh, my God, I want to leave my kid. I was eating whatever cereal. [01:11] I was like backing out of the driveway without looking. But like now. Most of my Instagram algorithm is things that I shouldn't eat. Yeah. It's like sandwiches. Sandwiches and pizza. [01:21] You have trouble with that stuff? No. No, not at all. No, I don't have trouble. Yeah. I just know it's not good for you. Yeah. Mostly I eat good stuff. What's like a – yeah, you're like an egg white –

[01:34] No, I eat yolks. Okay. Yolks are the healthy part. Yolks, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I eat the whole egg, but I have chickens, so I eat fresh eggs. Are you like a, like, do you have like a diet, like an Olympic, like are you like an Olympian? No. Are you like weighing your food? No, no, no, no, no, no. I eat way too much. If I weighed my food, I'd be like, I eat for a 300-pound man. Yeah. Was that because, that's because of how much you exercise and stuff? It's a that, but it's also, I'm a glutton. [01:59] Yeah. I'm a glutton. But you could do it. Yeah. I can get away with it. Yeah. But I do eat a lot. Like, if I go out to dinner, I will eat a large steak. I will have multiple sides. I will have multiple appetizers. And then I look like I'm pregnant when I leave. [02:16] That's how you eat, yeah? You just hang it down. I fucking eat a lot of food, man. It's not smart. How do you burn all your calories? Is it all like jujitsu stuff or whatever? [02:29] and fasting. I'm just smart about when to be a glutton and then when to back off. Yeah. And I just don't keep my foot on the gas. That's all. But like when I go to New York, it's all Italian food. It's Italian food for like three days. You gotta. You have to. I can eat it every day. I could too. It's a problem. It's a problem. It's all Italian subs and pasta. You have favorite spots in New York? Oh yeah. I got a bunch of spots. I got a bunch of spots. I got a spot in Vegas too. We were just at this place, Gaetano's. [02:59] It's all handmade pasta with imported flour from Italy. We ate there after the fights. Oh, my God. I love it. I have to go there. I'm going through Vegas. I'm still touring the tour that I was here with last. That started in 24. I'm going through all the way through 26. Oh, nice. Yeah. Damn. Yeah, I took like a three-month. Well, I took a break when I had my new baby, and then I took like a little bit of a six-month. But now I'm like back at it full. I got a bunch of big shows coming up, so I was like, let me get out there and tell people I'm still alive.

[03:29] fit yeah you got you gotta get out there if you want to do something because it's like you know if you just work in the city yeah you can't really put together an hour no i mean i piece it together i mean i'm i'm constantly on the road i just i just went down just to have a little bit of a breather because we just finished rapping season 12 of the show and so i was touring and doing the show and i had and i had a kid so it's like i just couldn't even and then we produced [03:59] I went on hiatus on my podcast and stuff because something I had to give. So now it's like, let me just get... [04:06] back out there and just now I'm not filming. I'm just really focusing on the tour and like a new pod I got coming out. When you do stand up, do you take guys with you that are your friends on the road? Yeah, that's the move. Yeah, all the time. That's the only way to go. It makes it fun. Yeah, fun. It's like, yeah, you're with buddies. It's like a vacation that you get to work at. Yeah, if I didn't, it can get depressing fast. Real fast. Yeah. If you're solo. Super fast. If you're solo and you're working with local openers, especially if they're [04:36] They're boring. Yeah. And they're not fun to hang out with. Oh, yeah. That's in the club in the room. I'm even talking about the hotel and stuff. Oh, that's bad, too. Yeah. You just got to find things to do. For me, it's always I work out and I play pool. So those are two things that occupy a lot of my time. Yeah. So that's good. I didn't work out and I didn't play pool.

[04:58] I'm like, I got this guy, right? And I'm like, all right, I'm weak. [05:03] I have no stamina. [05:05] I'm old and like I need to reverse all this, you know, like so like you're going to start with me now and I'm really going to show you nothing. Like, well, that's good. Yeah. That means I understand where I am here. But that's good. Yeah. You'll be able to see progress. Yeah. It's all no matter where you're at. If you're thinking about working out, do it because it's a good place to start no matter where you're at. Yeah. If you're really fit. Great. Good place to start. Yeah. Get even more fit. Sure. If you're out of shape. Great. Good place to start. Good place to start. [05:35] Steps. Don't go too hard. Don't get hurt. Build up slow. Yeah. I got some blood work back, and I was like, all right, I need to change somebody's numbers. And, like, also, I got, like, an in-depth blood work. And, like, they told me all this extra stuff that I couldn't have known. And one is I'm very susceptible to soft tissue injury. [05:54] Oh, you're a bitch. Yeah, I'm a bitch. It said bitch. I was translating it. It said bitch on the paper, and then this is how I make myself feel better about it. How do they determine whether you're soft tissue? Whether you're a bitch or not? That doesn't even make any sense. I don't know. It just said I'm very susceptible to, I guess, whatever it is, ligament, bruising, ligament, that kind of stuff. Well, that's just from years of not lifting weights. That's all that is. You think that's just changed my blood so that that's it? Yeah. 100%. [06:24] That's good to know. And then like my sixth session, we were doing that thing where I throw a medicine bowl down really hard and then catch it and then swing it to him. And on the swing to him, I was like, ah! Yeah, I would never have you do stuff like that to start out with. Yeah. To start out, you should do bodyweight stuff and you should do it moderately. Like when I had a bunch of guys in here, we were doing comedians workouts on Tuesdays.

[06:54] If anybody's just starting out, I'm like, do not go to failure. Do not push yourself. I want you to get out of here and feel fine. Yeah. He did say that, to be fair. He's not, like, killing me or anything. But we worked up to that. But that one, and then we just backed off of it. But rotational stuff is difficult because, you know, you're putting all, especially if you're not particularly coordinated and you're throwing a lot of torque, you know, one way or the other way when you're throwing a medicine ball. I got tons of torque here. [07:21] Torque. I got so much torque, right? Like what? I don't understand. Like what? Let's talk about Service Titan, the AI for the trades. The trades are the backbone of this country. And for the first time, they've got technology that actually matches the work. Over 10,000 contractors already use Service Titan software to run their businesses. Built by two guys whose dads were in the trades. [07:51] an AI trained on real trades workflows, not generic internet data. This is AI designed specifically for contracting work, HVAC, plumbing, electrical, and more. It's booking calls while you sleep, dispatching your texts, helping you run your back office, growing your revenue. One platform, fully automated, always learning, always improving. Every other industry is still trying to figure out AI. [08:21] Service Titan, the AI for the trades. Learn more at servicetitan.ai. This episode is brought to you by Traeger Grills. If you enjoy food, and I mean really good food, Traeger is a game changer. This isn't just a grill. It's the ultimate way to cook outdoors, delivering unbeatable wood-fired flavor thanks to the all-natural hardwood pellets that fuel everything you grill, smoke, or bake. That's it.

[08:51] fire and flavor. And what's truly wild is how easy it is. Just set the temp, load the grill, and let Traeger handle the rest. Grilled steak, smoked ribs, even baked pizza, all on one grill. If you're into fire, flavor, and doing things right, check out Traeger Grills. [09:10] This summer, the Cup is taking over the U.S., and only DraftKings has you covered every step of the way. Follow every group stage upset, every knockout round thriller, every stoppage time moment that flips the whole tournament. Sweat all the big matches you love in real time with a seamless experience built for the world's biggest stage. No matter where you're watching, you're always connected and in the game with one app. [09:40] with code rogan spend five bucks to get 200 in rewards within 21 days that's code rogan in partnership with draft kings the crown is yours if you or someone you know has a gambling problem call the virginia problem gambling helpline at [redacted phone] 21 and over virginia only eligibility restrictions apply bonus bets expire seven days after issuance for additional terms and responsible gaming resources cdkng.co slash audio limited time offer [10:07] What would determine whether or not you're more susceptible to soft tissue injury? The only thing that makes sense is that you haven't been working out, like unless there's a biomarker. Yeah. Yeah. [10:18] Is there? I think so, yeah. Let's try perplexity out. This is our new sponsor. Let's find out. Put that in perplexity. Find out what is a biomarker that would indicate you're more susceptible to soft tissue injury. Yeah.

[10:33] I have my results in a PDF somewhere. I can call my doctor. Well, we'll find out. We'll find out quick. But to me, the only thing that would make sense is that you haven't been using that tissue. That's the only thing that would make sense. And there's probably things that they could show in terms of levels of like creatinine, I think that's how you say it, and maybe some other stuff that would indicate. Here it goes. What biomarker would indicate one susceptible to soft tissue injuries? [11:03] supported biomarker that indicates susceptibility to soft tissue injuries, genetic variant. Oh, and the elastin, ELN gene. [11:11] Interesting. Which has been identified as a marker of ligament weakness and may signal increased risk of injury. Whoa. Yeah, there you go. So that's what you have. I'm a variant. [11:22] What do you call those X-Men? [11:24] I'm a mutant. So this is the word I was looking for. Classic serum protein markers like creatine kinase. [11:30] Lactate, what's that word? [11:35] Diodrogenase and myoglobin reflect muscle tissue breakdown and can indicate tissue vulnerability or prior damage, but their use in predicting susceptibility as opposed to recent injury is less robust. Recent research has also shown that profiling early healing stages through mass spectrometry, [12:00] Identify multiple proteins whose baseline alterations may point to greater risk for delayed or poor recovery.

[12:08] So what has this guy got you doing? What is a typical workout for you? He switches it up every single time. I've been seeing him about four weeks, three times a week. How did you find him? He actually lived in the building next to me. Oh. And I ran into him. This weird stuff has been happening like this lately. I'm like, I really got to get a trainer. And I was walking in between. We had a little thing in between the buildings, and he just was there talking to someone. And he mentioned, because I'm a physical trainer, I'm like, I need someone. He's like, I'll walk over. We'll do it. [12:38] So I do it at like 6.30 in the morning. That's the thing that's a little harder, too. The only time I can do it at 6.30 in the morning because I have like a – That's good, though. No, I know. I started the right way. You already got a win. It is good. And it's been crazy how much I feel like I've done now by like 2 o'clock in the afternoon. Yeah. But when that alarm goes off at like 6 and I know he's waiting downstairs, I'm just like – because now it's winter. Like back home, I don't know about here, but it's still completely pitch black outside. [13:08] even though I'm putting on a fucking headband. You wear a headband. I sweat. I wore a hat first, but I was like, I need to get, no, I bought, like, I got, like, fancier. I bought, like, a Lululemon headband. Oh, nice. It's not, it's like, I don't know. Yeah. I look, I look the part. [13:24] Okay. I look, I stretch. [13:27] Listen, it's all the, looking the part's fun. It's all part of just fucking doing it. It's been good. I felt immediately, it changes my, this is that release. It just feels great. The first workout I felt like right afterwards I was like, this is amazing.

[13:43] That's great. Yeah. Yeah. As long as you don't go too hard. That's what I always tell everybody. You can't, you're not going to be able to keep up. If you try a crazy pace right off the bat, you're not going to be able to keep up with it and you're not going to be able to recover. You're going to get broken down. You got to build it slow. It used to take care of itself with like just sports and stuff. But I don't do that anymore. You know, like I've done that in forever. Are you a good athlete outside of like whatever training you do? Like are you a sports? Like do you play any sports? [14:13] When I was a kid and then once I started doing martial arts when I was in my early teens I quit everything Wow, yeah, and just focused on that. Yeah. Oh shit well [14:24] For me, I hated team sports because I'm kind of stubborn. And I either struck out or hit a home run, no matter what happened. They were always like, get on base. I'd be like, right. I'm going for the bleachers, bitch. And either I was a hero or everybody was mad at me. And that's how I always played. I didn't care. I'm not going to be a loser because Billy drops the ball in fucking left field. Right. I don't care. Yeah. And so then when I found wrestling, I was like, okay, this is better. [14:54] This is just me. [14:55] And then I got into martial arts. And I was like, okay, this is what I like. This is just like I can – I either put in the work and get better or I don't. I either win or I lose. There's no weird gray area. [15:10] The only gray area is decisions. Decisions sucked because there's a lot of biased judges. And, you know, if you're in someone's hometown and you beat their ass. Really? That blatant? Oh, yeah. Don't you remember Roy Jones Jr. in the Olympics? Roy Jones Jr. is actually a beautiful moment because Roy Jones Jr. in the Olympics was...

[15:31] He boxed [15:33] It was beautifully. It was a perfect performance in the finals and he lost. There's no way he lost, but it was in Korea and it was against the Korean national champion. And so the Korean national champion, he won the gold medal and then came to visit Roy Jones recently and gave him the gold medal and said, you should have won that fight. [15:54] Like recently? Yeah, recently, recently. Wow. Better than ever? Yeah. Wow. But when I was a kid and I watched that, I was so disheartened. Because I'd seen that in Taekwondo a lot. Yeah. I'd seen that in kickboxing a lot. And it's just... [16:11] It's embarrassing. When you see blatant, obvious corruption, to me, that decision is one of the worst examples of blatant corruption. Because Roy Jones just ran away with that fight. The only thing he didn't do was knock that guy out, but he beat his ass. They don't feel repercussions when it's that obvious? [16:33] It's all subjective. It happens in the UFC. It happens in the UFC all the time. [16:41] infuriating. [16:42] It's infuriating to the athlete, too, because particularly in the UFC, there's a win bonus. So imagine if you beat a guy, like you really hit the gas in the second and third round. You fucking burn yourself out. You get the decision. You're like, I fucking did it. I did it. Your corner's celebrating. We got it. We got it. The last two rounds, all you, all you. And then you hear the judges, and you're like, no fucking way. They robbed me. Wow. And it happens. It happens all the time.

[17:12] What that means is you get $15,000 to show and then $15,000 to win. So if you lose, you only get that $15,000. So those judges just stole $15,000 from you. When you're struggling just to feed yourself, right, if you're getting $15,000 to fight, you have to pay for managers. You have to pay for your gym fees. You have to pay for nutrition. You have to pay for supplements. [17:37] Maybe you're getting a massage once a week. You've got to pay for that. [17:42] money. [17:42] It's zero money. You have to work a job. There's no way you're doing that without a job. If you're lucky, you could teach. If you're lucky, you can maybe teach private – like if you're a jiu-jitsu guy or a kickboxer, you could teach people during the day. But other than that, man, you're barely getting by, and they just stole 15 grand from you. [18:00] It happens all the time. And nothing comes there, right? It appeals of bullshit? We get mad. We talk about it in the commentary. [18:09] Daniel particularly gets upset because he was a professional fighter and he's seen it. Yeah. But it's like... [18:15] They always say don't leave it in the judge's hands. But that's nonsense because these guys, you're not good enough to knock them out. And if you try to knock them out, you're going to get knocked out. It's like you have to fight smart. Right. So, like, you always should fight. [18:29] The best you can, but smart. Yeah. And if you don't do that, you shouldn't be a professional fighter. It's because you're going to get beat up when you shouldn't get beat up. You're going to get hurt when you shouldn't get hurt. Yeah. I never did anything. I took karate for like six months. I never did. It was team sports for me. But it was –

[18:48] I wasn't particularly... I actually... When the first year of grammar school got a basketball team, I was in seventh grade. And so... [19:01] If you were in eighth grade, you automatically made varsity, and then whatever remaining spots you have to try out. I wasn't really good, right? But I tried out, and I was the last one cut. So I was the very first person to be placed on the JV team. Oh, no. So the best of the JV, right? Yeah. [19:19] I... [19:21] We didn't have a coach. The school did not have a basketball program. So my friend's mom, who [19:28] prior to this just owned a bakery she was like i'll coach i mean she had no she had no experience outside of pastries and she got like a clipboard like a whiteboard clipboard and we met at the school gym and she started running drills with us and it was like whoever else wanted to be play [19:58] of the team for the season. Nice. [20:00] Went to the awards ceremony. No, let me finish talking. Oh, sorry. Yeah, no, you'll see. The team, first of all. So we weren't good. We knew we weren't good. [20:10] And we were like, okay, watch this first team we're going to play is going to be like amazing. So we show up for this first game. Okay. We get to the Catholic CYO Center. It's like the Catholic youth organization gym. We get there.

[20:22] Every single kid on that team is just like... [20:26] Dominican or like we were all like the scrawny little white kids. These kids were like six feet tall already. I'll never forget it. I walked in and you do drills in the beginning before you start the game. You all go out in the line and take layups on your side. They're taking layups on their side. And I remember I locked eyes with some kid and he looked at me and he was dribbling the ball backwards through his legs as he walked backwards. And he didn't break eye contact with me. And then he like ran up and like he did a layup and like tapped the backboard or whatever. [20:56] We lost 44-0. [21:15] This the parents were there and the parents of this team were engaged. I mean, they were shut out in basketball. It's pretty tough. And the parents were going nuts. And so at the end, when the buzzer sounded like the parents were chanting 44 zip, zip, 44 zip for. And they were chanting it like loud. Right. And then when we got online. [21:35] The kids started chanting. The parents started chanting. The parents ran onto the court. And I just literally, like, and we're shaking hands. They're all chanting 44. We go all together up the stairs to get the juice box. And the parents are screaming up the hallway, 44, right in our face, like 44, zip, zip. I mean, literally. It was like the most humiliating experience. Wow.

[21:56] Next game, we played Blessed Sacrament. We lost 56-3. I had three points. Congratulations. Two points and a foul. A bucket and a foul, right? And then we proceeded to go 0-14 on the year. [22:09] The last game of the season at halftime, I don't know what happened. We looked up and we were winning. It was the first time we ever had a lead. It was the last game of the year at halftime. And someone was like, holy shit, we're fucking winning. And we looked up and it was like 18-16 or something. And we lost. [22:26] They proceed to have the awards dinner. [22:29] Well, you know, everyone, like, it was all the teams. It's like, it's a sports dinner. So, like, they're doing all the awards for Varsity JV across all the platforms. And they insisted on... [22:39] doing it. So, [22:40] I was the MVP of the team. Because you scored the only three points. I had 16 points on the season. 14 games, 16 points. I had to get up in front of everyone at the buffet and take the trophy that said Salvo Cano, MVP, JV, you know, 1990, whatever it was. And I just was like, thank you. You know, like we were 0-4. I had 16 fucking points. I have that trophy right now in my den on my mantle. That's hilarious. That's hilarious. [23:10] This episode is brought to you by Happy Dad Hard Seltzer. Most hard beverages overcomplicate everything. Happy Dad keeps it simple. Low carbonation, gluten-free, and only 100 calories in every can. Barbecues, golf rounds, hanging by the pool, chilling after work. Happy Dad is perfect for whatever you're up to. Everyone is drinking all these skinny cans loaded with sugar, but Happy Dad only has one gram of sugar in a normal can.

[23:40] grab a variety pack featuring lemon lime watermelon pineapple and wild cherry and don't sleep on the grape collab with death row records it's a fan favorite for a reason happy dad is now available nationwide in the usa and canada go to your local liquor store or visit happy dad.com for a limited [24:10] Must be 21 plus. Please drink responsibly. Happy Dad, hard seltzer and tea, malt alcohol, Orange County, California. Boy, that'll teach you a sense of humor. Yeah. I mean, right away, I would just say. 44 zip zip in your face by grownups. Yeah. I mean, like going like that. What kind of sportsmanship is that? There was none there that day. [24:32] There was none there that day. There's something to be said for that. There's something to be said for that. We had no business to be out of that. I can only imagine what it looked like. Like, if they want their kids to be pros, you know? Yeah. If they want their kids to really dominate, you got to really encourage the shit out of them. Yeah. You know? And for a lot of people, look, if you've got a kid that's six feet tall already, and, you know, he's fucking 14, and he's really good already at basketball, you're like, we might get rich. Yeah. You know? This is like a shot. Yeah, it's true. Fuck yeah, it's a giant shot. [25:02] system. I mean, if a kid can make it in professional sports, oh my God, you know, it's your kid. And if you're lower income people and you have a kid and your family's really into sports. It's a hope. It's a way out. Oh yeah, man. I mean, it's like one of the rare things.

[25:18] It's a lot of pressure on those kids. [25:20] Oh, my God. I could imagine. We didn't have uniforms, our team. No uniforms? No, we wore our gym uniforms. That's hilarious. Which was like the short shorts and just the T-shirt and stuff. That's hilarious. And me, I tucked mine in. My socks were up to my knees, that kind of thing. Perfect. Sounds like a good movie. You should pitch it. It's my little giant, so whatever. There's no win at the end, though. It doesn't have to be. We failed miserably. You don't have to win. You know how hard it was to accept that trophy? [25:50] It was odd. [25:51] Yeah. But now it's like, great. It's like I have the trophy and I like, I should, I never did it on stage. I should maybe work that into a bit. It's a good setup for being a comedian. Yeah. You know, that kind of like humility. Yeah. [26:04] It humbles you. It's a good setup. You've got to realize we're not all created equal. [26:11] Yeah. That's a crock of shit. I'm funnier than any one of those kids, I'll tell you that one. There you go. [26:18] Well, like, the idea that everyone's created equal physically, that's a hilarious idea. You haven't met any... [26:24] extreme athletes there's people out there that are just they're different than all of us just just it's not fair that's just how the universe works some people's great grandparents were fucking vikings yeah like like for real vikings [26:39] I've been trying to figure out what else to do. I need some type of outlet because I haven't been doing anything. Why don't you take up a sport? So another thing that happened to me, this was the weirdest thing ever. I was like, just...

[26:51] popped into my head. I don't know why. I was like, I think I want to learn how to sail. What I think I might have meant maybe is I want to learn how to drive a boat. But I was like, I think I want to learn how to sail. And so I was telling this to my wife and then like, [27:04] Just same thing as the trainer, like a few days later, it was like four days later, I was at music class with my daughter and one of the dads was there with his daughter and I was inviting him to go somewhere like a group activity and he was like, I'd love to, but I can't. I teach sailing that day. [27:20] And I was like, are you serious? He's like, yeah. And you were already thinking about it. Four days ago, I said to my wife, I want to learn how to sell. He goes, let's go. Do you think that you have the ability to manifest things like that in your life? Do you ever wonder? I don't think. I don't think. There are people that believe that. There are people that believe that the way your consciousness interacts with the universe is what makes things happen. Let's go. Things don't happen exactly as randomly as we want to believe that they do. [27:50] out there. I'd like to believe it. There's a lot of examples of it. It's a weird one to believe in because... [27:56] I feel like it's an element to life. And the problem is people are always looking for it to be the element, like the thing. Do you remember that movie, The Secret? Yeah. So during that time, a lot of people, unfortunately, got convinced that they could wish their life into existence. Yeah, they got like a board. Yeah, yeah, yeah, a vision board and all that stuff. I think that is a part of things, that putting something into your head is a part of things. But I don't think it's the whole thing.

[28:26] Think of it as the primary thing instead of thinking of it as the whole thing as all these different pieces. Like if you want to get healthy, you have to eat well. You have to take vitamins. You have to exercise. You have to sleep. You have to drink plenty of water. You have to cut out all the bad stuff like alcohol and that. [28:42] So there's a lot of elements. It's not just work out. Yeah. Right? There's a lot of elements. And I think that's the thing with, like, manifesting stuff. [28:50] I don't think it's entirely bullshit. [28:53] I think there's something to it. I mean, look, you start lining all your ducks in a row. Eventually, something's going to be cohesive. But the thing of me running into a guy that – That's what I'm saying. That's like – what's that? That's what I'm saying. The sailing and the fitness trainer. Yeah, yeah. Like right when you're putting it out there, there's a lot of people that believe this, that believe that what we think of as physical reality, just being static and locked down, [29:23] Yeah. [29:34] be able to measure it, to somehow or another quantify it and put it on a scale. What percentage of how your life goes depends on what kind of energy you put out there. Energy's big. Energy's big. That's why I'm always very particular about who I hang out with. Because people think it's no big deal to hang out with idiots. But the problem is you're absorbing their energy. And instead of hanging out with really cool people and you absorb their energy and everybody gets out of there feeling fucking great. What a good time. What a good time.

[30:04] suck the energy out. They suck it and they make it about them and they get negative and they're fucking passive aggressive and weird or whatever it is. It's like, I don't want to deal with him anymore, man. You eventually shed those people. You should because they are energy. It's like you can... And I think how you feel personally... [30:25] Like how your life is going has a giant effect on how your life can go because you're thinking in a positive way. You know, like you're in the right groove. You're in the right vibration. Yeah. If you want to get real hippie, you want to get all crystal-y. [30:39] But there's something to it. It's not everything. It's not the whole thing. I don't think it should be dismissed because I think there's a reality to it. Because I just – there's too many times, too many times. Like how many times have you ever run into a fucking trainer and the guy's telling you you're a trainer? None. Fucking never, right? The sailing one blew me away. Yeah. How many times have you ever run into someone who teaches sailing? And I took it. I went sailing the other day. [31:00] I took my first one at New York Harbor, man. Wow. It was crazy. It was awesome. My parents lived on a sailboat for like two years. Might have been more. Might have been a little more. Yeah. [31:10] Yeah, they just started. Before you were born? No, no, no, no. When I was already a grown man. Oh, okay. Right when I started getting on TV and I started making some loot, I helped them get the sailboat. And they got a sailboat. And they just lived on it. They already sailed? No. No, they learned how to sail. They did it. It's not easy, by the way. Gangster move. Yeah, and they were living down in the Bahamas and shit. That's living off of a sailboat for a few years. What kind of parents you got? My parents.

[31:40] an idea to me yeah they just took they took this chance they just decided like to let's see they they lived on it oh yeah with a cat too with our cat that we had when we were kids the cat was on the boat with them this is fascinating yeah they were uh they took well they're still alive i shouldn't say they were they are they they you know they they like to live life and so they wanted to visit them on the boat i did yeah yeah i visited them on the boat yeah it was fun i didn't visit them in the bahamas i visited them when they had it out here oh they had it in america [32:10] It was interesting because, like, to be able to do that, that's a crazy – and they had to weather some storms. Like, they had to get docked up during a storm. My stepdad had to go out to someone else's boat because it wasn't tied down, and he had to tie this dude's boat down in the middle of a fucking storm. Yeah, that's like life-risking shit. Yeah, life-risking shit. Dangerous shit. Yeah. Yeah. They did it for a couple years. My mom was like, we're done. What was the life before that? Like, was his standard? No, yeah. [32:40] Because that is a bold choice. Yeah, it was a crazy choice. Not even to just learn – because it's like I'm going to live on this sailboat. I'm going to go live in a tropical – I'm going to live – I'm going to learn how to sail. I think they just – people don't like work, man. Like a regular job, like work sucks. And if you – and you get to a certain point in your life where your kids have left the house and you're like – [33:01] This is life. This isn't like preparing for something. This is life. I'm not preparing for life right now. So I don't want to do this. I don't like doing this.

[33:10] Let's just do something else while we can. Yeah, because it was, like, when you're out on a boat, [33:15] That's what it is. Yeah, that's what it is. It has a way of really centering you. It's like being in the mountains or being in nature. When you're in nature, you go to the woods like, okay, this is the only thing that matters, this existence. I like that because I didn't grow up with that, and it's not common for me, and it's the one thing that really resonates with me as far as shutting my brain off and things like that. Oh, yeah, the ocean. There's a reason why all those rich folks live right on the ocean. They're not stupid. [33:45] once in Malibu. [33:46] We were getting our kitchen redone in California, and we couldn't stay in the house. And so for, like, four months, we rented a house. And we rented this house, like, on the water. And you wake up... [33:59] And you sit in the patio and it's these sliding glass doors and you're literally above right above the ocean. So you see nothing but this little little balcony and then water. And you're like, oh, I get it. Now, I wonder why these people live right next to each other in a 20 million dollar house. Yeah, because I was like, who the fuck wants to buy a house with no yard? You're jammed up next to your neighbors. That's stupid. And then I got there one morning drinking coffee, sitting there by myself, smoking a joint mic. Okay. [34:28] Yeah, it's like biological. I get it. It's like you can't – Yeah. I go, oh, yeah. I get it. I see what you guys are doing. Yeah. Oh, yeah. This is better. This is like – [34:36] You're watching a show and a work of art at the same time while you're taking in sunshine and fresh, clean air from the ocean.

[34:45] But here's the fucker. [34:48] The difference between the water in the day and the water in the night is huge. The water in the day is beautiful. It's blue, and you see dolphins, and you see seagulls everywhere. It's incredible. It's food for the soul. At night, it's a black monster. At night, when you realize, especially me, because I'm probably a little high at the time, and I'm looking out at that water... [35:17] Abyss. And I'm like, there is billions and trillions of gallons of water out there, and no one can control it. And all it takes is the Earth just having this one little shift to the tectonic plates, and a fucking wave is coming. And you're right on the edge. [35:36] And I sleep like a log. Yeah. You know? Yeah. If a tsunami's coming, you're done. [35:43] Yeah, look at this one. Getting swept away. I... [35:46] This is the Outer Banks? Yeah. Yeah, and this ain't even a tsunami. This is just a house. Yeah, that's tough, man. There's a video of this guy walking his dog in Russia. [35:55] And it's real recent. And there was a tsunami that there was a giant warning. They knew it was going to happen because there was a huge earthquake off the coast. And so they knew it was coming. So this guy is... [36:06] Way up on this cliffside watch this look how high he is see how high he is yeah that was he oh he's in Russia That's him and taking the video yeah, so he's he's taking this video and he's with his dog and

[36:18] It's kind of cool when you hear his voice, too. It's like, wolf, wolf, wolf. [36:22] So look how high he was, right? And look at this water coming in. [36:28] Thank you. [36:29] Oh, dude, it gets all the way over the top. No. Oh, yeah. Look at the dog. The dog's almost... The dog doesn't know it almost died. This silly dog is just sitting there. It keeps going. It keeps going. [36:40] Thank you. [36:41] Bro, this is bananas. Yeah, that's horrifying. Look how high it gets. Yeah. [36:46] And now at this point in time he's realizing like, oh shit, look, it gets over the top. It crests over the top of the fucking hill. Yeah. [36:54] I mean, that's like 100 feet. Yeah. Yeah. [36:57] I it's that's insane. Yeah. You've seen that perfect storm, right? But that's what happens at night. Yeah, you're sitting there at night. You can't sleep. What am I doing? Why would I sleep here? This is so stupid. It's it's weird how it flips like that. Just all you have to do is just be real. Like in the day, you're not real. It's like, oh, the sun is giving me vitamin D. It's like at night. It's like, no, no, no, no, no. This is just water. [37:21] an immense amount of water that no one is in control of. [37:25] get out of here. I was like, get the fuck out of here. No. No? No, no, no, no, no. That's their world. That's their world, dude. This is an ad by BetterHelp. [37:38] We have a lot of big holidays coming up, but before you start preparing for trick-or-treaters or make plans for travel for Thanksgiving, there's one other big day you should focus on. World Mental Health Day. It's October 10th, and if you don't know already, it's a great day to send some love to therapists. Maybe a therapist has made a positive impact on you or someone you love. Therapists, listen carefully.

[38:05] ask the right questions, and help someone move forward. They can help you if there's something keeping you up at night. If you're looking for a safe space, BetterHelp is a good place to start. They've spent the past decade helping people connect with the right professional therapist. And based on the millions of highly rated reviews, it's safe to say they do a great job. BetterHelp does most of the work for you, too. [38:35] This World Mental Health Day, we're celebrating the therapists who've helped millions of people take a step forward. If you're ready to find the right therapist for you, BetterHelp can help you start that journey. Our listeners get 10% off their first month at BetterHelp.com slash JRE. That's BetterHelp.com. [38:54] H-E-L-P dot com slash J-R-E. I did it. I did it on a trip in the Cayman Islands. And I always wanted to do it. So I was psyched to do it. And I did one time prior to that in a pool. So I was like, all right, whatever. And I almost couldn't go through with it because the initial descent, they had to put weights on you. Oh, boy. And it just goes against everything your body feels. Your body is like, no, no, no, no, no. [39:24] say like you know try to breathe measured if you breathe a lot you run out of air faster oh fun right so it's like yeah just just hearing the fact oh you run out of air is the tank the the meter based on how much air is in or how much time like how much you've been breathing like could you fuck up and and breathe too much yes and it wouldn't say e yet no no i mean i had the little dial so it'll show you yeah and i was with someone i was not yeah but still by the way it doesn't matter by the way so it's like i couldn't get down i'm

[39:53] claustrophobic. And so I think that played into it, but like, [39:57] You have to start... [39:58] it just you have to overcome the sensation that you're maybe drowning or being suffocated like you know you go down and the weights start to pull you down and you adjust to breathing through here but then that's it like and if you want to like talk or it's like you don't you don't feel comfortable and you just want out this you know you can't just get out and once you go down 30 feet or so you have to like you know you can't just shoot up either you have to go up slowly [40:28] Like, you know, that whole thing. And so I thought I was 30 feet where you get the bends. Is that what you get? No, I only went 30 feet. I think that's like very simple stuff. But I still don't think you shoot up. Right. Yeah. It's deeper than that. Yeah. But. Which is crazy. You get too much nitrogen in your blood and you're fucked. It's fucked up, right? That's crazy. And I got. That's their world, bro. That's not your world. That's their world. Well, it was 30 feet down. It was still kind of my world. That's far. Yeah. Yeah. That's far. Yeah, but I can still. If you're out of breath. I can still see our world. You know what I mean? [40:58] And you've got to get to that 30 feet and you're exhausted and out of breath. That's fucking terrifying. Yeah. Well, it was me and my friend and that's it. It was an instructor. No one else showed up. It was his birthday. I was taking him for his birthday, right? So they like tell you some things. They're like, all right, I'm going to go down there with you and like tell you signals and stuff. You know, like if I do this or I do, you know, whatever the signals were. And I'm like, all right, I'm trying to like remember these goddamn signals, especially like if I need to communicate something. Yeah, there should be a test. Yeah, there wasn't.

[41:28] And like once I got down there and calmed down, [41:33] I had moments where I was a little panicky again, but like in the moments where I was calm, I was like, all right, I'm going slow. I'm breathing slow. This is cool. And you just kind of start exploring. And there were these big, like, I guess, Oscar, these big fish, like literally the size of almost my body, like five or six of them together just there. But they weren't like, you know, they couldn't harm you. But like just the sheer size of them was like, I'll stay away from them. [41:57] But then this instructor starts swimming forward and then my friend is behind her and I'm behind him. And at one point, like, you know, I'm not good with the paddles. No, the flippers. Flippers. Yeah. Is that flippers? Yeah. Like, I don't know. Some people are just good with them. But, like, it's kind of like it's weird. It's an unnatural feeling. So I'm not good with them. And I got this fucking tank on me. And, you know, everything's tight, you know, and it's like and I'm trying to use flippers. [42:27] I'm kind of falling behind a little bit. I'm not really doing it great. And then I start to try to do it faster, but then that like spins me a little bit. So now I'm spinning down there and I'm trying to kick out of it. And I like want to communicate to the instructor and she's – [42:40] I had in front of my friend swimming forward. And my friends, I'm looking at his ass. I'm just like fucking like, I'm just like waving my hands. Like, I need help. That seems wildly irresponsible. Yeah. I don't think she should have led like that. No. I would say she was probably 20 feet ahead of me. [42:56] Swimming vote. And so at that one point, I was like, this is not

[43:01] Like, this is crazy. I can't get help if I need help right now. And then you're panicking. I did. I panicked. I started breathing heavy. Of course. [43:08] And I had to literally just bring myself back down. Let me ask you this. So they don't give you any tests to make sure that you're good at scuba diving? Yeah, we went in the water first, in the shallow area. And we did some exercises and drills or whatever, and they explained the signs. What's going to happen? Did you tell her you're claustrophobic? I don't think I did. When you say you're claustrophobic, are you self-diagnosed or did you go to a mental hospital? Self. [43:38] You went crazy. [43:39] But if I'm... How did you... Where do you get that from? Like, where do I think... Yeah, why do you think you're claustrophobic? What makes you... Because I've been in scenarios in confined small spaces where I couldn't get out or I didn't have a lot of mobility and I literally had a panic, like we have a panic attack. Like I stopped... My heart starts beating out my chest. I feel like I can't breathe. So it's like an anxiety of being confined to a small space. Yeah. Yeah, like when I was... [44:04] I did an MRI. [44:06] Oh, that's very claustrophobic. I started beating out of my chest. There was one time on a plane, a long time ago. I don't like to fly either. So that combined with like I was in a row, like a really tight row, like crammed in. And I just, I don't know, I just, it's happened a few times in my life where we're in like the back row of like a, like a, [44:27] a van where like it was closed in. Like I couldn't anywhere. I can't get right out. And one time I was in a stretcher,

[44:34] And I – [44:35] They like lock you, like they strap you in. That, I can't take that. I can't take it. What happened? You got to get stretched? [44:41] I was in a car accident. Yeah, I was fine. I was okay. But they just precautionary put you in a stretcher? I was, to tell you the truth, I was driving and a guy ran a stop sign and plowed fast and plowed into me. I was a teenager. And my best friend was driving behind me. So he watched it happen. So he called right away. But I guess I kind of, I don't remember. I got hit. And then I remember my girlfriend at the time crying. And I remember talking to her. But I have no vision. [45:11] I just hear the words. And I remember, like, I was hugging her, and I could feel her tears, and [45:16] And then the next thing I remember... [45:19] in my mind was that I was in a stretcher on the floor and I woke up and like the ambulance was there and everything was that's the next thing I remember but I'm telling this guy I'm in this fucking thing and he has me on the floor behind the ambulance and I'm right by the exhaust pipe oh my god I'm just laying on the things like just right by the I'm like can somebody fucking move me from away from the exhaust pipe that's hilarious you know but uh I couldn't [45:42] When I'm held down like that and confined and I can't move, it's like, I don't know, I just feel like I can't breathe. [45:48] Right. I start to freak out. My mom has it. So I don't know if it's like, I don't know if it's, I just wonder what the difference between that and general anxiety is. Cause if you have general anxiety, I would imagine you would get claustrophobic too. So maybe that's what it is. Well, I'm just telling you what I feel in confined spaces. Oh, the reason why I'm asking is cause I think we have, excuse me. I think we have genetic memory.

[46:09] of bad stuff. I think that's why some people are allergic or terrified of snakes. Some people, like there's a thing, a real thing, a phidia phobia or arachnophobia. Some people, like, they go into a hot panic. It's different than anything else. And I think there's something like in the genes. [46:26] from millions of years of evolution where someone down the line died or almost died because of one of these fucking spiders or one of these snakes, or you saw someone get killed by a snake, and you see them, and you fucking lock up. How do you explain the phobia of clowns? [46:45] John Wayne Gacy? Yeah. There's a bunch of... Somewhere along the line. You can't see their real face. Yeah. It's scary. Yeah. It's scary to not be able to see someone's real face. Yeah. [46:56] fucked up things we did to kids during the pandemic is make everybody wear masks because kids are in school and they're not getting facial expressions right they're not getting them from teachers they're not getting them from their classmates it's weird yeah yeah that's weird that's not good for human development yeah that was the norm there's something especially as kids we don't like if we can't figure your face out i can't see your whole face you're wearing paint so i'm not getting the right signals you got a rubber nose on you got weird fucking crazy hair [47:26] Right? If you're a regular guy, and I can tell if you're creepy, I can tell, like, this guy's got weird energy, let's get out of here. But a clown's like, hello, boys and girls. You're allowed to act like in this weird, silly way. Yeah, a clown could be right on the line, whether it's demonic. A full-on demonic psychopath that you could hide as a clown. And you could hide with that language, that clown language. Hi, boys and girls, would you like to see a trick? Meanwhile, you're thinking about cutting that kid up in your basement. Yeah. You know? And those are real human beings. Yeah, yeah.

[47:56] Do you remember when clowns, like, for a minute were, like, in the news everywhere because it was, like, a trend that clowns were terrorizing towns? It was, like, five years – like, maybe less than ten years ago. No. Oh, my God. So where I'm from in Staten Island, we had this Staten Island clown. Oh, no. And there was a clown just showing up in public spaces and events just watching people and then, like – [48:19] Recessing like back into the night and it would make appearances and started making the papers. I do remember that. Oh, it's wow And that all there's around the time that it came out though. I don't think it was it I [48:29] Maybe it was Terrifier. [48:32] Oh, that late. [48:34] So what year was this? I think it was like – I would say I would put it out 10 years. Okay. Yeah, it was 2016. Okay. Yeah. But then other places, like other people started doing it. And then it was like clowns. And that was kind of fun actually though. I do remember that. I like that. I like that. I like the idea that there might be a clown that would go out one night. Because it almost felt like our version of Summer of Sam or something like that. People are like, if you're going out tonight, look out for the clowns. It is weird that like there's always been throughout history. [49:04] Yeah. [49:04] There's always been these people. In Austin, they say this guy strangles. They don't know who Jack the Ripper is, right? I feel like there's some new, but there's always like a story. New evidence reveals the true identity of Jack the Ripper. You never know what's just clickbait bullshit, and you click on it some nonsense website that tells you they found Jack the Ripper. So you're not going to get me every time. I just clicked on something that said that Christian Bale was Banksy.

[49:30] Nah. There was an article I told you. Well, he's an amazing actor. That guy can do anything. It can't be. It's bullshit. It would be fun if it was. Yeah. He's an interesting dude. You know, he drives like a 1983 Toyota Tundra. [49:42] Or a 93? Really? Why? Not even a Tundra. A Tacoma. [49:46] He's a weird dude. Just like, this is all I need. I drive this. [49:50] He's got a regular Toyota pickup truck. I shouldn't have, like, doxed him. Now people are going to be looking. Yeah, look at him. Dude, he's fancy. He's got a Tundra. [50:01] I think this thing was April Fool's. [50:03] What's that? Banksy thing was April Fool's. Oh, was it? The Banksy thing. Someone sent me a link. I didn't even know. I wouldn't be shocked if it was, though. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. As good as that guy is, he could kind of do whatever he wants. When you get to that level of actor, those are weird, exceptional humans. They don't come along that often. The Gary Oldmans, the Daniel Day-Lewises, there's these people that become another person. Those weirdos, they could do whatever they want. [50:33] He's making Mona Lisas everywhere. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah, they're playing with... [50:37] Different rules, I think. But I remember being disappointed when I found out it was him. Because, you know, it's like, ah, I don't know. I want it to be mysterious. It's kind of amazing that nobody knows who Banksy is. Yeah. [50:48] It's really weird, actually. Did you see that dock, that exit through the gift shop? I didn't. It's pretty interesting. [50:56] It's like – it's – [50:57] It follows other artists. His name's like Mr...

[51:00] he has a moniker that he goes by and the people thought that he was Banksy. And so like it spends the whole thing like following him, but it turns out he's not. But it was a fun watch, but it was like, it's just wild to me that after all this time, [51:18] In the age we're living in now, nothing has gotten – like everyone – how many people know who he is? Like how close to the vest is his identity? Well, he would have to be a truly brilliant person to keep it together. Is it more than one person? That would be likely. Right. But even then, you know, fuck it, I'm coming out with this. You guys are assholes. Yeah. Yeah, right, right. Like one guy in the band that decides to leave. It's got to come out. Or his girlfriend. You should go to the press. You can get a lot of money if you go to the press. It's going to come out eventually. [51:48] out. Listen, sell your story before they don't want to buy your story. We need the money. I didn't know you did voices. I did that one. That's a good one. That was pretty good. Did I close my eyes? That was good. Sell it. [52:03] No, I don't do that. Mark, it's $65,000. Do you have $65,000? You don't. But it's going to be worth nothing. This episode is brought to you by The Farmer's Dog. Here's a fun fact. Research shows that dogs who maintain a healthy weight can live up to two and a half years longer on average than dogs who are overweight. Isn't that wild and also kind of obvious at the same time?

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[54:20] exclusions may apply. And next thing you know, the band's breaking up. [54:26] That's funny, dude. That always happens. I went to... [54:31] I went to – I was invited to this brunch in England, and it was a guy – man, he was a descendant of – who was the – [54:43] The guy was like, oh... [54:47] I [54:49] Like, when you want to fucking... When you're... [54:53] Like when you're thinking about your mom, who's that guy? [54:57] What are you talking about? Yeah, I know. I know. I'm literally having a stroke. I have no idea what you're saying. I know. All right. Jamie, do you know what he's saying? He needed a couple more words. He wasn't getting to it. Yeah. When you think of your mom, that guy. Who's he? Yeah, the guy. It's like, what's it? For Freud. [55:12] Oh, Jesus Christ, Sigmund Freud. Yeah. So he's, I think he's a descendant. I didn't know what you were talking about. I was nowhere close to that. Freud is like his, I think Freud is like his great-great-grandfather or something. And then he also married into like, it's the biggest publication in history. [55:31] The biggest media company conglomerate overseas. I forget his name. He's a super rich, famous family that married into another super rich, famous family. Right. Freud family and then whoever this is. Anyway, I'm at this person's house. Long story short. I don't remember how I got invited. I think his daughter- Where is it?

[55:51] It was somewhere outside of London, and it was… [55:56] It was unassuming because we walked through row houses, through an alley to get to their property. And I think the daughter of this, I feel bad that I'm forgetting their name because they were gracious hosts. [56:09] The daughter, I think, was a fan of ours or something and somehow got in touch and we got invited there. It was a weird, wild thing. So I find myself at this place. I didn't know anyone. And I get there and it was a weird collection of people there. [56:26] a brunch forever. He's like known for it. And he has a lot of friends and a lot of celebrity friends. And so there was celebrities and stuff there at this brunch. It was really cool. Walk in, there was all food trucks and stuff and get into their house. And, uh... [56:40] At the time, Woody Harrelson was filming a movie in London, and it was crazy. It was a live movie. [56:48] movie. [56:49] in one shot. [56:51] they rehearsed for this movie for months and months and months, and then a live stream into theaters... [57:00] And he acted live, and the entire thing was one shot. It was like 90 minutes long. Whoa. Yeah. I can't believe it didn't get more press just from the nature of that. That's insane. [57:11] Wow. So... [57:14] He was out there for that, and so he was at this brunch, and I think Owen Wilson was also at this brunch. How did I forget about this? Do you recall it now? No.

[57:25] I'm kind of recalling hearing about it now. Yeah, it was kind of. But it didn't get any love. No, but I went and saw it, and it was really fucking cool. [57:35] So there's, I mean, there's a lot of different people there. Liv Tyler, just the guys from Oasis. There was just a collection of people there. And I found myself, they had like a little, not escape room, what do you call it, safe room? Mm-hmm. And the safe room was just converted. It had a ping pong table in it. [57:55] Woody Harrelson and Owen Wilson are playing ping pong down there. And I just, it was them two, a cat and me. And I just watched them play ping pong. I don't know them. But wait, I'm getting this. Oh, so anyway, they had Banksy's. [58:07] Like, they had a fucking... [58:11] man, you know, I think I need to take a supplement from my, I need to get some ginkgo biloba in me. Who's the artist with, like, Picasso? They had a Picasso. I'm like, who's the guy who puts, like, an eye over here? The guy with no ear? No, that's Van Gogh. Yeah, they had Banksy's, like, just in the house, like, up, like that. Like, wow. That's... [58:29] Probably. I mean, you know, that's... A million dollars? Probably. Probably. At least. I don't know. I don't know how much they are, but I was like, oh, wow. That's like your own personal Banksy? I went over an agent's house once in Aspen. [58:42] And this is like a long time ago. And we were there for, they used to have the Aspen Comedy Festival. [58:47] And I was over his house and I was like, oh, did his kid make this? There's like this painting on the wall. [58:53] And they're like, no, that's a... I go...

[58:58] He paid for that? [58:59] It looked like tissue. I'm just saying this to another agent. So it's me and this other agent shooting the shit over a couple of cocktails. We're laughing. But I'm like, for real? And he goes, yeah, that's worth like $35,000. [59:10] There's no way that is... A kid did that. It was like pieces of tissue paper glued with some paint splattered on it. It's nuts. It's nuts. [59:20] I was like, what is this? Do you know the origins of that stuff? [59:24] They think it was a CIA psyop. For what? Modern art like that. Come on. Yes. Yeah. There's some evidence that points to the CIA. Like when they just nail a banana to the wall or something. Yeah, a little bit of that, but a little bit of like Jackson Pollock. So, yeah. Like the splatter shit. I was going to bring up Pollock because Stern did that. Did you ever see when Howard did that? He was like, I can make a Jackson Pollock and you won't know the difference. And he did it on a sheet. He did it and he put it next to each other and nobody knew the difference. Yeah. [59:54] is we couldn't compete during the Cold War with the classical artists of Russia. [1:00:00] Like, there's some incredible painters in Russia... [1:00:03] at the time, and I'm sure they're on now. But [1:00:07] We didn't have a similar level. We didn't have a da Vinci over here. We didn't have someone who could do what they were doing. And so the CIA came up with a plot to popularize nonsense art and make it like really huge and make all these investors want to spend money buying like nonsense art.

[1:00:28] And apparently there's – I never would have considered that until I paid attention to all the other shit they've done over the last X amount of decades. And I was like, I think that's true because it doesn't make sense to me that that stuff would just emerge and all of a sudden be worth millions of dollars. And someone wouldn't figure out exactly what Howard Stern figured out, that I can make this on my own. And you could just say it's a Pollock. It was a Jackson Pollock. And no one would know. Like, what are we talking about then? We're talking about something that anybody can do. [1:00:58] can't do that. You look at [1:01:01] There's a million paintings. You look at it, especially today. There's something about the level that people are at today where they're making photograph realistic paintings. [1:01:09] Photo realistic paintings that are above and beyond anything anyone's ever accomplished in the history of art. But because it looks so realistic, people don't even seem to care. [1:01:20] Modern art was the CIA weapon. [1:01:23] The spy agency used unwitting artists such as Pollock and de Koonig in a cultural cold war. [1:01:30] Isn't that wild? [1:01:32] So scroll up to the thing. This is from The Independent. Oh, you have to support? No, that's there, I guess. Oh, okay. [1:01:38] So... [1:01:41] The connections of probable, there's a period in the 1950s and 1960s when the great majority of Americans disliked or even despised modern art. President Truman summed up the popular view when he said, if that's art, then I'm a hettentot. I don't know what that means. Hottentot. Hottentot? What's a hottentot? I don't know, but I'll tell you right now, I'm starting to use that word. Hottentot.

[1:02:02] Jamie, Google that word. What is that word? [1:02:05] What's a hot and taut? [1:02:07] Throw that into perplexity. Sounds like candy. What is a hot and taut? [1:02:14] TOT. [1:02:16] What's a hot and tot? [1:02:17] Oh. [1:02:19] An outdated and offensive term historically used by Europeans to refer to, I don't know how to say that word, K-H-O-E-K-H-O-E, an indigenous group of nomadic pastoralists from South Africa. Jesus Christ. The president was using that. You want to talk about the world being different? The president was using a slur. Oh, my God. [1:02:49] the era and certainly not the sort of people normally likely to receive U.S. government backing. So why the CIA support them? Because in the propaganda war with Soviet Union, this new artistic movement could be held up as proof of the creativity, the intellectual freedom, and the cultural power of the U.S. Russian art. [1:03:07] of the U.S., rather. Russian art strapped into the communist ideological straitjacket could not compete. [1:03:14] Hilarious. So because their artists were better, we decided to come up with some nonsense art and make people think that was the shit. And it worked. It worked. But are we saying that they found those artists and propped them up? No. The artists already existed. [1:03:31] No, the artists already existed, but the CIA propped them up and pushed them out as being amazing. And they did it in an effective way. And look, if all these super-duper rich people are involved or closely connected to the CIA, all they would have to do is have art exhibits at their house and tell everybody how amazing this guy is and how mind-blowing this piece is, and they'll all agree. That's how art works in a general sense now anyway. It's like there are people at the top that dictate a lot of this stuff. You know what I mean?

[1:04:01] Well, for sure, but there's also just talent. Someone's really good. All they have to have is an Instagram page. [1:04:07] If they're really talented. Oh, yeah. But I'm saying the art world and art as a commodity and that kind of stuff. Like the bottom can fall out at any time of that just like anything else. I guess, but people always want art. But the thing is like what I'm getting at is nobody wanted that art. Yeah. And then all of a sudden it became worth millions. And it became worth millions because of the CIA. Yeah, that's wild. They mindfucked the American people into believing that terrible art is really good. That's wild. [1:04:32] Wild. Yeah. No, because I just read an article recently about how art as investment, there's been a huge change where a lot of – [1:04:42] artists that were being pushed and were really hot by galleries and this and that, like, just years ago. And selling at X amount, like, their stuff's not worth anything right now. Wow. Yeah. Wow. I wonder why. [1:04:54] Well, when the economy starts going, I would imagine that people stop buying art. [1:04:58] Right. Like luxury items, shit you don't need, art. Yeah. It wasn't I forget, but it wasn't it wasn't economy based. It was like it was like the trend, like, you know, the trend within that that world or whatever. It's like it's always weird to me how people put a price tag on that stuff. I was in excuse me. I was in Venice recently. [1:05:19] And we went to, I guess it's the Guggenheim family. [1:05:24] gallery it's a house that's like it's a gallery that's like on the water you like you pull up in one of those little boats yeah you get off and you're in the gallery and it's like priceless art it was one person's collection so one super rich lady put together i think is it called the peggy guggenheim

[1:05:42] In Venice? [1:05:44] I might be making that up. But anyway, it's a lady, a very wealthy lady who really loved art. [1:05:50] Is that it? Ooh, what a memory. And [1:05:53] She has this incredible collection where you're like... [1:05:57] How much did she spend? Like, this is like a billion dollars in art. It's nuts, man. What is that? [1:06:05] - Oh, that's the front page. Oh, that's an exhibit that they have there. But it's all, there's some modern stuff, but there's a lot of like, [1:06:13] Like priceless shit. Yeah. Just unbelievable collection. You collected anything? No. Nothing? No. No. [1:06:19] I collect pool cues. Yeah. I like pool cues. No art at all. Nothing. I have some art. Yeah. But I have friends that are artists. Well, this place is filled with art, obviously. Yeah, I'm looking around, yeah. But I think of my house very differently in this place. I definitely collect art. Okay. I love art for here. But for my house, I don't have anything. Okay. I don't collect anything. I started. [1:06:37] This is like – [1:06:38] I feel like the studio is a totally different thing. Like, this is like, it's not my house. It's like a showcase, you know? Yeah. I like to put cool stuff in here. Yeah. Like, I would, if my house was like this, it's too chaotic. It's too weird. Yeah, yeah, yeah. [1:06:54] Yeah, that's the creative space. It's cool. It's cool in here. I have a few pieces at home from this guy, Greg Overton. He's a friend of mine, and he does Native American art that is just spectacular. He does these huge pieces, like this, you know, like eight foot by six foot, giant Native American faces that are just – I saw him for the first time. I was in Park City just going through, like, the little town, and they had a gallery. And we were walking around like, oh, let's go look at the gallery.

[1:07:24] Whoa. Pull up one of his photos. If you can pull up the one that I have. [1:07:29] But I stare at that motherfucker every day. It's totally different. This is a very accurate representation of a real person that lived here 200 years ago. [1:07:41] They're like, what is that dude's lifeline? Oh, shit. That one's on my wall. Oh, my God. Yeah. How good is this guy? Wow. What is that oil? What is it? [1:07:52] Oh, yeah, it's oil paint. Wow. Oil or acrylic or, I mean, I don't know what exactly he uses, but it's painting. So, like, realistic. Oh, well, it's just really good, man. Wow. That's one of the ones that I have, but I have another one, this dude who has white paint on his face. [1:08:07] And this crazy scar on his face. It's like his stuff is, first of all, the dude loves, that's it, the one above it with the feathers, the white one. [1:08:17] Yeah, that's it. Make that a little bigger. [1:08:20] That one I see when I'm walking down the hall every day. Oh, shit. I was like, the first thing I see in the morning is that motherfucker staring at me. Wow. Because I, you know. That's kind of powerful, dude. It's so powerful. Yeah. I love that painting. Greg's a friend, too, and he's a cool motherfucker. But that, to me, represents, there was a real human that looked exactly like that walking around 200 years ago. [1:08:50] this country in just a short amount of time. Yeah. And this dude in, you know, 1810 is just out here, lived his whole life out here like this. Yeah, man. Living under the stars, following the Buffalo around.

[1:09:03] So there's something really powerful about knowing that people used to live like that that long. [1:09:10] That recently. So recent. And now he hangs right by your powder room. [1:09:16] He's at the end of the hallway. Right when I get up. On purpose. I want to walk towards him. That's serious. The stuff I've collected is a little bit more vibrant. A little bit more not so photorealistic. I was going to tell you. Someone I thought you liked. This artist Jordy Kerwick. I found him on my own during the pandemic. I bought a piece of his art. [1:09:40] And I really loved it. And then like – What does he do? [1:09:42] What kind of stuff? [1:09:44] I mean, it's kind of like... Well, his style has changed. I bought like a still piece that was like... [1:09:50] But now he's moved to this really funky, cool, like lizard. Whoa. [1:09:57] What is that? This is some cool shit, right? Yeah. Oh. He's awesome. He does sculptures, too? He's from Australia, I believe. He lives in France. He does sculptures. Yeah, he blew up, too. And he's the nicest guy. So a couple of years, a few years after I bought his piece, I saw him like something of mine on Instagram. And I was like, oh, because I Zoomed with him before I bought it, I guess, just to talk about it for a minute. [1:10:20] Maybe he just... [1:10:22] followed me and knew who I was because I bought his art, but he didn't. He just knew me through comedy. And so I hit him up and I go, hey man, I saw you like something of mine. Like, you know, I bought something from you, right? And he's like, I have no idea. No. And I was like, yeah, we Zoomed. And he's like, no, no, I just am a fan. I'm like, dude, your stuff is amazing. And this guy was so nice. He ended up sending me more artwork. Like he shipped me more artwork of his and it's like expensive. And he just was so generous. He sent me more stuff. Yeah. This guy's

[1:10:52] That looks like where the wild things are. [1:10:54] How fucking dope is that right? Very very style has changed so much too and it's like I want to get another piece I got part of me. It's like I don't want to if I'm gonna spend if I'm gonna get it I want to like, you know get try to vary it up But I like his stuff so much that I just kind of want to like look he does weird shit - yeah, that was creepy. Yeah. Yeah art is awesome, man it's like I [1:11:15] It's got so few limitations. You can do whatever you want. You paint whatever you want, sculpt whatever you want, you know, and you have that thing in your house and you get to stare at it and it gives you like a whole different sense of life. [1:11:27] Yeah. Like somebody made that. This popped out of someone's imagination. [1:11:32] my cough button is still broken let's try it seems like it's working now when the whole thing is not out it acts a little weird how good are you with a bow and arrow? pretty good [1:11:48] I bow hunt. Right. Yeah, I practice every day. [1:11:52] Every day. Yeah, yeah, you have to. [1:11:55] All right, so if I... I mean, I shouldn't say you have to every day, but you have to practice a lot. You have to be really accurate. But like back in the day when they battled with bow and arrow, what skill level were those guys? Oh, that's a totally different kind of archery. Right. So that kind of archery is... How much of that was like letting it fly and how much of it was like, I'm a sniper, I'm going to... Oh, no, they were good. Yeah. Guys are good. [1:12:17] My friend Aaron Schneider, he's such a good bow hunter that he decided he wants to hunt with a recurve, like a regular bow for a while. Yeah.

[1:12:25] Because like he... What's the difference? It's way harder. Okay. Way harder to be accurate. Like a Robin Hood bow? Yeah, Robin Hood bow. Really? A regular bow. Yeah, he killed everything with it. He killed bears. He killed deer, elk, everything. But he's like a professional hunter. He's like a world-class hunter, ex-military guy, got into hunting. He's a fucking beast. Yeah. And when bow hunting, which is one of the hardest things to do, becomes so easy that you want to pick up a regular bow and go shoot that, that shows you what type of human you're talking about. [1:12:55] into like a softball-sized lump at 45 yards. He just fires them in. No. Yeah, he's super accurate with that. Oh, fuck. So I tried once. I was on vacation, and I'm like, I'm good with a bow and arrow. I know how do you shoot a bow and arrow. I do it all the time. I was hitting them in the ass, hitting them in the neck. I was hitting them all over the place. Not a human, not an animal, rather. It's a foam target. We were shooting recurrent, and I was like, I'll be able to do it. It was like a thing that you do. You shot skeet. It was at an island resort. It was pretty fun. [1:13:25] recurves. I was like, oh, I got this. Bro, that was terrible. It was a totally different technique. [1:13:33] It carried over a little. I mean, I hit the target, but there's no way I was accurate. So if I... [1:13:40] Gabe Chase, if I ran from you, [1:13:42] And you had to get like, if I get like, could you take me out if I'm like, if I'm running around like a moving target? Like, well, it depends on how far away you are. Okay. Okay. [1:13:51] So the arrow's going 279 feet a second.

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[1:15:40] A second. A second. So what's that in miles? I don't know. But that's when I look at my range finder. I'm just doing quick math, but I think that's a billion miles an hour. I have to enter in my range finder. I enter in how fast the arrow is going. Yeah. I enter in how fast the arrow is going, how much the arrow weighs, and it gives me a very precise measurement of where my arrow is going to be at the top of its flight. So when I range something, I use a laser range finder. It's called a full draw. Leupold makes it. [1:16:10] When I click on the button, it gives me the distance, so I'll say like 53 yards, but it also gives me the height of my arrow because I've entered in the speed of my arrow and the weight of my arrow and the feet per second it goes. [1:16:24] So you're going from home plate to center field in a second and a half. It's so fast. It's like you barely keep your eyes on it. [1:16:31] And then mine is not as fast as other guys. Like I have a friend of mine, my friend Josh Jones. He just put together a bow that I think goes 340 feet a second. [1:16:43] But he's a big, tall guy. And when you're a taller person, you have a longer draw length and you'll get more speed out of the bow. No. [1:16:50] I can't wrap my head around that speed of a bow. They're very fast. Like I said, if you were at home, the way I'm thinking of it. 200's, 136's, 340's. [1:17:00] 232 miles per hour. 232 miles an hour? That's crazy. That's insane. It's so fast, dude. That's the way I'm thinking of it. If you're at home plate, I'm at center field, and you shoot your arrow at me, I have a second, one second to move out of the way. His arrow's going 231.82 miles an hour.

[1:17:19] That's bananas. And there's people that karate chop those. [1:17:24] Not really. Not that much. You kind of see a regular... Okay, you got a longbow, which is probably the slowest. And then you have recurves. Recurves, I don't know if the Mongolians invented them or if the Mongols invented them, but the Mongols... [1:17:40] had the strongest known bows. They had bows that take 160 pounds to draw back. [1:17:47] So much so that like some of their skeletons were disfigured. Wow. Because they had so much time pulling in one direction that their whole body was like contorted in that shape. Chiropractor would have cleaned up back then. But those guys were – I don't think chiropractors were real. But those guys were super accurate. But you'd have to do it every day. If you do it every day, it's like a pitcher, right? Like if you ask me to throw a strike, who knows what's going to happen? I might not even go near the plate. [1:18:17] ball very often. Not since you started doing martial arts. But I mean, the point is, even if you did, you'd have to do it over and over and over again to be able to throw a strike in a game against a real good batter, right? That's what these guys are doing with bows and arrows. They're getting to that point where it's just like throwing a ball. They know exactly how far it is, exactly where the arrow's going to go at that distance. They have a feel because they're doing it every day. But you have to do that every day. The kind of archery I do, you don't have to do it as much. [1:18:46] They probably should do it every day. But mine is like I'm dialing this sight out to the exact yardage. I've got like a fiber optic pin that's sitting over the spot. Like I know exactly where it's going to be. It's super high tech. Yeah. And then you know exactly where the arrow is going to be at every spot of the way if you shoot it straight. How long? Because of all that.

[1:19:07] Is it more about understanding it to be accurate? Or is there also still like you have to be steady and everything? You have to be – you have to just do it so much that it becomes a part of you. It's like when you were playing basketball, I'm sure there were times when you're fucking around with your friends where you just hit a flow. You just hit a flow and you start draining. That was right around my 13th point. But you know what I mean? When you're with your friends. Game nine. Not when you get your ass kicked by Dominicans. But when you're just hanging out with your boys – [1:19:37] Every now and then you catch a flow, right, where you feel it and you just know the ball. Yeah, for sure. [1:19:43] So everything else is, it's like taking that and just doing it all day long until you can do it at any time you want. Sure. You're always in that flow. So how long did it take you to feel like, oh, I know what I'm doing or, oh, I have a marked improvement right now? It just takes, it took years. Years. Years of practice. That's wild. Yeah. So years of just like not hitting. No, you always hit the target, but not consistently. [1:20:13] so I could get most of them in the spot that I wanted to hit. But every now and then, one would go left, one would go right. [1:20:19] Now they're all going in there. Now 45 yards for me is like zip, zip, zip, zip. I'll ruin arrows because I'm stacking them on top of each other. But if I go out to like 85 yards, then things spread out because then all of your movement is magnified. So the key is it's like. [1:20:36] Any little variation, little twitch to the left or to the right, over the course of 85 yards, it's going to vary six inches left or right maybe. Right. Whereas at 45 would just be like a little bit. You know, you'd think you're still dead on.

[1:20:48] And it just magnifies all the flaws in your technique. So it's like you lose yourself in it because when you're at full draw, and I'm not even talking about bow hunting. I'm just talking about... [1:21:00] target archery, when you're at full drawn, you're really trying to hit that target, you have no room for anything else. There's no room in your mind for your bills or an argument you had with a business partner or fucking tickets you haven't paid. There's no room. Everything goes away. It cleans the mind because it requires all of your focus. That's the best part of it. That's the best part of it. Everything after that, it just becomes like everything else. It becomes like a vehicle for you. [1:21:30] to express yourself, whether it's learning how to play guitar, shooting a bow, playing pool, playing basketball. It's like you're just finding a vehicle for you to express your spirit. You ever let go of an arrow and a bird? No, no, no. That would be crazy. Like Randy Jackson. You ever seen Randy Jackson? I did see that. That was nuts. Bird. And that guy? Fucking that guy was a house. That guy threw heat. He was like seven foot one. He was so big. He was a gangly guy. Fucking bird exploded. Yeah. [1:22:00] It was perfect. It was like the universe threw us a ball. Right? Like the universe was like, was he something fucked up? Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Like every now and then the universe does that. Live TV. You just continue. Yeah. There's feathers on the floor. It's like a Looney Tune cartoon. This video's nuts.

[1:22:19] Boom! Oh my god! Disintegrated! That video is nuts. [1:22:25] And he's a lefty, too, son. [1:22:29] Look at the slow-mo. [1:22:32] Oh, my God. What a mistake that bird made. It's just crazy that it didn't just like kill the bird, but knocked every single feather loose. You just put it right on the fire. It's like when you get into like an accident, like your shoes and socks. Oh, my God. Something about lefties, too. [1:22:57] Yeah. I think lefties learn things better than righties. [1:23:01] I know a lot of lefties that are really good at shit. It seems like the lefties that are really good, they're exceptionally good. Weird, like oddly good. [1:23:11] I think seeing everybody do everything opposite... [1:23:15] And forcing your brain to adapt to this world where you're writing and you're smudging your paper all the time because you're writing the wrong way. It's all weird, right? Yeah. And then you're seeing everybody's doing everything with their right hand and you're doing it with your left and you're supposed to. Everything seems wrong to you. So by doing that, you have to really think about your movements. Yeah, but the left hand, it comes out early, right? It's like inherent. That movement is inherent. It's not like they're working on it. Right, right. So it's like, I don't know. Do they even, do they have to think about those things? [1:23:45] Is it just like... Oh, they definitely do. Yeah? Because everything's reversed. Yeah. Like if someone tries to teach you something, they have to teach you the opposite way. It is a right-handed person's game, usually. Like say if you're a boxing coach...

[1:23:55] And you only fight orthodox. You've only fought orthodox your whole life. And then some kid comes in and he says, I'm left handed. [1:24:03] And you have to decide. Either you're going to teach this kid fucked up and teach him left hand first, which some people actually think is actually a benefit. Right. In fact, some great boxers actually fought, like Oscar De La Hoya, fought dominant hand first. So there's a few guys that have done that. They will, if they're right-handed guys, they'll put their right hand in front. But for the most part, you would want to teach that kid how to fight as a southpaw, which would mean you would have to reverse everything. So if you don't know how to do it, [1:24:29] If your technique is off and you're showing someone how to do something, you're not really – [1:24:35] So the kid's got to learn things from his stance and watch you and just duplicate it, like mirror it from the other side. And sometimes that just teaches you more about the movement itself because you think about it. [1:24:49] Because one of the things they say if you really want to learn something, [1:24:53] Say if you're in a martial arts skill, if you have a dominant side, like if you're really good at throwing a kick with your right leg, if you throw it and practice it and get it better with your left leg, your right leg will improve as well. [1:25:05] Oh, that's interesting. I didn't hear that. I feel like, yeah, because you're kind of... [1:25:12] Yeah, I could see how that. It gives you a more comprehensive understanding of what you're doing. And they say that about pool, too. I can't really play with my left hand. I can make like simple shots with my left hand. But there's guys that can just switch hands. The ambidextrous people are like probably aliens. Yeah.

[1:25:29] Yeah. [1:25:30] Just equal both on both sides, like equal... [1:25:33] They could do it. [1:25:35] This is a crazy example in professional pool. There's this kid named John Moore, an elite. [1:25:41] like top of the food chain pro pool player, hurts his shoulder, can't play right-handed anymore, learns how to play left-handed, [1:25:49] and becomes world-class left-handed. Wow. [1:25:53] He learned as a professional when he hurt his arm that he had to start playing left-handed. Started playing left-handed and started winning world-class events as a lefty. Beating world-class, top-of-the-food-chain pool players who've been playing right-handed their whole life. And he's been playing lefty for like two years. Yeah. It's nuts. I can't write my name. I broke my arm once and I had to write my name and I write everything with my left hand. It was fucking terrible. No, there's nothing there. [1:26:23] so I was trying to learn how to draw with my left hand. But I think now in retrospect, it might have helped me draw better with my right hand. [1:26:31] I think if you could learn how to do something, that's why I think lefties are better at stuff. What do you draw? [1:26:36] Well, I used to want to be a comic book illustrator when I was a kid. So I drew a lot of comic book stuff. Oh, shit. Yeah. You do that still? No. No, not anymore. You don't miss it? [1:26:45] I mean, I can do it. I can pick it up, but I would have to get into it really to like achieve the skill that I used to have. And then I would like, I don't have any time. Yeah. It's fun. I love drawing, but I don't have any time. Those kids in school always like blew my mind. They'd just be sitting there drawing like comic book, like literal, like that good. Oh yeah. Yeah. Self-taught or are you just kind of. Yeah. Mostly self-taught. See, that's also gotta be something that's.

[1:27:05] I mean, if you start from nothing and just like, I don't know, I feel like that's inside you somewhere as well, like to be a naturally gifted, just to know how to, some people are just better at that than. Well, I had a very artistic family. My Uncle Sal and my Uncle Vinny were both artists. Okay. So my mom's brothers, both brothers were artists. What kind of artists? One of them ran a pottery guild and I was an art teacher. And the other one did a bunch of different types of art, photography, and did a lot of album covers. [1:27:35] did album covers for Kiss. No shit. Yeah, and he took me to work with him once, and I got to meet Ace Frehley when he had no makeup on, like before anybody knew what they really looked like. Before he became a clown? No, no, they had makeup on back then, but no one knew what they looked like in real life. Right. [1:27:52] So he showed up in the office with no makeup on. I was like, this is crazy. That's wild. And I think I was probably like 10. And I was like, this is nuts. I was just hanging out with my uncle in the office. Yeah. And fucking Ace Freely walked in. That's wild. My third grade teacher, her brother was the drummer in Twisted Sister. No. Yeah, Tony Piero. We're not going to take it. She's the first, like... [1:28:20] I mean, like Rockstar that cross-dressed? [1:28:25] Like Dee Snider in them. Right? Yeah, they were one of the big glam rock bands. But it was almost cross-dressing. That's him on the right of Dee. [1:28:35] Right, like you would kind of, you would say... Yeah, that's, I mean, that's... You would ask his pronouns, you know what I'm saying? That's like poison, all those groups back then. But, so yeah, so she lived, so we lived in these little garden apartments. Look at that! That's so ridiculous! That's so ridiculous!

[1:28:53] Bro, they were huge. They were huge. They were fucking huge, man. Mark Adder is that natural. [1:28:59] Shut up. [1:29:00] I don't know. Maybe they added it. It's like a Marilyn Monroe one. Remember when the ladies were doing that? They were adding a fake beauty mark? [1:29:07] Like, what are you doing, honey? So this guy... So my teacher lived upstairs from us in the apartment building. So he used to go to the other house all the time. So I was in grammar school. I was in... I was like... I couldn't have been more than like eight. Same. Something like that. And... [1:29:22] My dad was the superintendent of the apartment buildings, and so he knew everyone. I was my teacher, so we met him at a young age, and he used to come over to my house all the time. So I have pictures of me in my parents' kitchen, just sitting down eight years old in my pajamas with him, and just eating a tuna sandwich. And he's literally dressed like that. I swear to God, dude. I have one where he's in full electric blue spandex pants. Oh, my God. [1:29:52] all up and it's just me and him sitting at the table. Oh my God. Oh dude, that's so ridiculous. We used to, I remember back then, did you ever have the denim jacket? Oh, I had a denim jacket for sure. And then we got the patches all over it. Oh yeah, that's right. And then when we graduated, everyone signed, take a sharpie, a black marker, sign your jacket. I don't think that exists anymore. Oh, no. That kind of thing. [1:30:16] Yeah. Denim jackets were a sign that you were a rebel. I had one. Wearing a denim jacket, especially if you have a pack of cigarettes in the denim jacket. Yeah. You know? I remember there's this one kid. You know sometimes when you're like 14, you see some kid that you've never seen before, and you're like, wow, that guy's so cool. There was this dude, he had a denim jacket on and a pack of cigarettes in his pocket, and he just had perfect hair. And he just looked cool, like this Italian-looking kid. I'm like, that guy looks so cool. Yeah. I wish I was cool. Yeah.

[1:30:46] He was like smoking a cigarette in the breezeway. I was like, that guy, he's in a movie. That guy's in a movie. I was a dork. I was trying to hide from people. I was trying to do that. That influenced me so much that I took my money that I made for confirmation and I bought a Van Halen replica guitar. [1:31:05] I swear I bought it. Did you learn how to play? No, not a fucking chord. It was the red guitar with like the white lines on it. It was like a famous Eddie Vance. It was a kid's one though. [1:31:16] still there, Mode Music on bass. I took all my money. I bought that. I bought an amplifier. I bought a guitar case. And I spent all my money on it. And I never used it, never took it out of the... [1:31:28] I just never used it. I have it to this day. Wow. Well, you can learn as a part of your workout regimen. Yeah, I could learn. Like a mental concentration workout. Yeah, I could. Because it is kind of, right? I used it one time. [1:31:40] It came full circle on the show. [1:31:45] Do you know the band Imagine Dragons? Yes. Okay, so I met them along the way, friendly with them. So before they... Well, they were big, because this was Jones Beach, which was like 15,000 people. They sold that out. Whoa. They were playing Jones Beach. It was like maybe, again, 10 years ago. And... [1:32:02] We... [1:32:03] Thank you. [1:32:04] They threw me out on stage before they came out as one of the opening acts. [1:32:09] And I had to sing and play guitar to almost 15,000 people. And I don't sing or play guitar. And they didn't tell me what songs. I had to make it up on the spot. Oh, no. Me and my buddy Joe, who they put him as the drummer, they introduced us as a band called Senor Alonza, which was the name of our high school Spanish teacher.

[1:32:30] And so there was three opening acts before us, which is bonkers, right? [1:32:39] like they were going to come on. They lowered the lights and all those freaking spotlights started going all over the place and the place went nuts. And then they introduced the fourth opening act and us two walked out. He got behind the drums and I used that guitar that I bought in 1989, June 89. I finally used it in like 2015. And they just, they're like, all right, go, you're an opening act. And that's all they said. Oh my God. And I just [1:33:09] We were getting booed. People were throwing things at us. Can we hear it? It's probably... Is it like copyrighted? No, no, I made it up. Oh, you mean because of the show? I doubt that. Let's play some of it. [1:33:27] Can I see it, Jay? I put in your pants pocket a dedication for this set. Open it up and it really... [1:33:33] Oh, you had to dedicate the set? Yeah, the dedication was terrible because I... We're going to play Look Mommy, I'm a Rockstar. Oh, boy. This is one of our favorites. [1:33:51] He doesn't have a place.

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[1:37:23] song called Fuck the Imagination Dragons. I'm better than them. How long did you sing for? I would say probably somewhere like... [1:37:32] eight, seven, eight minutes. I mean, I'm getting hit with ice. So long. And then, uh, and then this guy, he keeps trying to get the guitar from me. I'm ripping it from him and I'm like, fuck the magic. And he's trying to, and I, I wouldn't let him have it. And I didn't realize that was the official union stage manager trying to get me off the stage because there's a curfew [1:38:02] And they have to do their finale. And as soon as they go, you know, this past curfew on a union stage, the entire thing is like double time for every single worker there. And then there's penalties. It's hundreds. [1:38:13] It could be like $100,000 a budget. Plus. Yeah. Yes. And so no one tells me who this guy is. So I'm shoving the real union stage manager off of me because I thought he was trying to just sabotage me. Right. And I thought I had to stay out there. So I push him away. I push him away. The guy's like. [1:38:29] Give me the goddamn good time. I'm like, I'm not taking, you know. And I found out afterwards that that was like official and I was supposed to get off and I didn't. I caused them later because they couldn't not do their encore. Their encore went into overtime. And the encore, that dude, he gets hooked up to his cables. They lift him into the air and they spin him in circles while he plays drums. It's wild. And they said they went into the bonus and they had to pay all these fees because of me. Oh, no. Did you guys reimburse them?

[1:38:59] reimburse them. Like, I just, I know, to... [1:39:02] They're still our friends, but like – and at the end, they're like stage dive off. And I'm looking in the crowd, and I'm like, I'm going to kill myself. These people aren't going to catch me. They hate me. Right. And they stage dive, stage dive. So I just ran and I jumped off, but I kind of just like landed on the floor and rolled off. [1:39:22] Like, no one caught me. [1:39:25] It was, yeah, it was rough. It was rough. But that's the guitar. That's how cool I thought that he was in Twisted Sister. Like, that's how cool. I was like, look at this guy. Which one of your friends told you to stage dive? Fuck him. Whoever was, I don't know. That is so irresponsible. I know. Well, they weren't, they were never going to catch me. And I just, they saw me and I just, I kind of jumped off. I think as I, as I'm in the air jumping off, I got hit with a soda. It was bad. [1:39:52] Oh my God, that's so ridiculous. I know. That's so ridiculous. Yeah, the show has given me a lot of opportunities to do stuff like that I would never have done like that. Well, who the fuck ever gets to do something like that? Yeah. [1:40:03] The balls to stand up there while all those people hate you and go through with whatever they're telling you to say. I have a ping of anxiety. Did anybody let them know afterwards that it was for – [1:40:15] don't recall. [1:40:17] I don't recall. I would imagine maybe they came out and said something, but I don't remember. It was like 10 years ago. Oh, that's funny. [1:40:24] There was another time they put us in the Devils during in between periods. They threw me as a goalie in the net of the New Jersey Devils. And all the Devils came out and took slap shots on me. Me and my buddy Q. It was two of us in net.

[1:40:38] It was... [1:40:40] scarier than that. They were taking blistering slap shots at us. I was in full devil's gear as a goalie. And I remember there was someone from Sports Illustrated or something was there. And I saved it like a chain of his tweets that he was tweeting. And he's like, I don't know what's going on here, but the devils are apparently taking slap shots at a civilian. He's down on the ground. He's very hurt. This is not a good promotion. He's like, I don't think that the devil should be doing this type of promotion with fans. He didn't know it was our show. [1:41:10] He's like, did you get hurt? [1:41:12] No, not like hurt, hurt. It hurt, but I didn't get hurt. Okay. So when you were down, he didn't need to be concerned. I got back up, but it still was hitting me in the neck. Yeah, like you have the guard on and stuff. Does the guard protect your neck? It hurt bad. It hurt. Does it cover your neck? Yeah, everything was covered, but it's still like fucked. Still taking a puck at 90 miles an hour to the chest. Pucks are so hard, too. [1:41:42] high school, I played hockey, and I started as a roller hockey goalie, but it doesn't [1:41:47] You can't compare the two things. Bro, you ever see some old school photos of the old school goalies with scars all over their face? Dude, no, they didn't even wear fucking helmets back then. [1:41:56] Yeah. It's crazy. They just played without helmets. A puck hits you in the mug on Tuesday. You're done. Yeah. And you got to play again next week. My first ever tryout for ice hockey in high school, it was hard to play hockey back then. It was expensive and there wasn't a lot of rinks. We drove like two hours up to like...

[1:42:19] Bear Mountain or some crap, like three hours with my family, my dad, my stepmom. They had to wait in the stands because they can't drop you off and go home because you just drove three hours. So they're watching these tryouts, and it was my first time I ever put ice skates on in my life. I had played roller hockey already, but I never put on ice skates in my life. So it was kind of like you were saying, like just trying to play like left-handed or whatever. I was like, oh, maybe it'll transfer, you know? Yeah. And I put on these ice skates, and it didn't. I was really bad. But, um... [1:42:48] someone took a slap shot and it got deflected into the [1:42:52] onto the stands. So, whatever. I didn't think anything of that. At the end of the... [1:42:58] Try out I went back got my club got my bag walked back out and my my stepmom was out there with her I was this big the ambulance was there. She bleeding black and blue stitches everything the puck hit her right in the face Oh my doing my tryouts. Oh my god right in the face. Oh I was like oh my god like it was her face was this big blood everywhere. She was already black and blue a gash right here Does that happen all the time? [1:43:28] To her? No, just the one. To people in the crowd. Do people in the crowd get hit? Yeah, they had to put up nets because a couple people died. [1:43:36] Jesus. Yeah. Yeah. And this is a high school kid. Oh, my God. That was a high school deflection. Like, imagine, like, the devil's taking slap shots at you. Oh. Yeah. [1:43:45] oh that's crazy yeah [1:43:48] Those guys taking slap shots at you. Could you even react to it? Did you see it coming? No.

[1:43:55] Could you see the puck? It was like a split-second battle between whether I would try to – [1:44:01] like actually block it or just like wince and take it because it was like it was faster than you know I was prepared for obviously like can you skate? yeah [1:44:14] Not these days. [1:44:23] Find it like this. [1:44:25] Yeah. It's not real. Right. It's a real photo. It's a recreation of all the times he's had stitches in his life. Oh. [1:44:32] says it's what... But the scars on his face are real. What it would look like. [1:44:36] if it simulates 16 years of professional hockey. The problem is, like, the one on the left, you can't really see very good. He's very shadowy. But you can tell he's got scars everywhere. [1:44:49] You know, those guys just took it in the face all the time. [1:44:52] This says that the first guy wore a mask in 1929. This guy. When did they figure it out? [1:44:59] Yeah, look at him. His nose is already busted. [1:45:01] He's like, all right, I'm putting a fucking mask on. That guy's probably a genius. He had the mask before he got his nose busted. Really? Well, his nose is actively busted, right? Maybe he put the mask on afterwards. That's what I'm saying. He's like, let me put this thing on. Or maybe he broke his nose with the mask on. I mean, if you take a full one to the nose, it's not like it's a smash against your nose. It's going to smash. It wasn't.

[1:45:27] One of them had the blood going through it right there. [1:45:29] The blood is going through the nose. Oh, God. I guess it's just the hole. [1:45:34] Yeah, but... [1:45:35] Dude. That's a hard sport. Built different. That is a hard man's sport. And it's the only sport where you're allowed to fight. To this day. Crazy. Just [1:45:45] Let them have it. It's the weirdest thing. If you think about it. It's just grandfathered in. Yeah. And all the extra precautions now and the CTE stuff and all that stuff. Out the window. It just hasn't even permeated. Yeah. They haven't had a meeting, not a vote. It's just like, no, the guys need to fight. [1:46:00] It's crazy. It's part of the sport. Do you feel like it's less fighting now or no? I don't know. I don't watch hockey. I haven't watched in a minute. Yeah. [1:46:07] You know, I grew up in Boston. If you said you had to say it in whisper tones, I don't watch hockey because people would get mad at you. [1:46:14] This big Bruins town. Everybody loved hockey. But for me, I was like, I don't like being cold. So I don't like skating. I don't have time for this. It's a lot. It's involved. But it's a fun sport to watch. It's a really fun sport to watch. It's fast as fuck. You've got to be in really good shape to play hockey. Because those guys are just moving, moving, moving, moving, moving, moving. And it's like this delicate balancing act you're doing on metal skates. It's graceful, too. Yeah. As much as it's just, you know, brute force. [1:46:42] Sure. When you watch a guy like Bobby Orr in his prime, the way he was able to maneuver through people, the movement, it's crazy. Beautiful swans. Yeah, it's like a dance. It's a dance and a sport at the same time. Really amazing sport when you think about it that way.

[1:46:58] And then the speed of it, too. It's a fast fucking sport, man. Like, you cannot be out of shape and play that sport. That was the only time I was in shape in my life, probably. It's fitness, man. You're constantly kind of sprinting with skates, you know? You move so much core movement. And when I did that, I skated everywhere. [1:47:16] Like, I played roller hockey first, but when I was in my four or five years that I was obsessed with it, I played every day, I roller skated everywhere. Oh, wow. So you were with that guy out there roller skating on the streets. Yeah. Like a wild man. Yeah. Well, that's smart. That's a great way to keep up those skills. Like, you're going to have to walk anyway. You already know how well you can skate. Why not just skate there? Yeah, it was kind of like skateboarding. Like, why wouldn't I get there like five times faster or whatever? Did dudes try to knock you over ever? Yeah. [1:47:44] When I play hockey? No, when you're skating bottom. You know? Because that's the thing. You see a guy with roller skates on, you're kind of tempted to go, fuck this guy. I mean, it wasn't like roller skating on Venice Beach with my headphones. I didn't look like a cornball. I just didn't. But you know some people, they don't like people in roller skates. When I lived in California... [1:48:10] motorcycles were allowed to split the lanes. [1:48:12] Oh, really? Yeah, which is crazy. It's really dangerous. But if you have a motorcycle, you can get by in traffic. When everybody else is fucked, you're zipping right through. And I remember one time I watched this guy see this dude coming up beside us, and I moved to the left to give this guy a little room so he could pass, and the dude in front of me moved into the lane.

[1:48:33] on purpose to stop this guy from passing him for no reason at all. And that's going to happen with that too. Yeah, yeah. No, I don't recall really. It was good for my curfew because I used to go to my girlfriend's house and my dad was like, you have to be home by like 11. And it was like probably like a couple of miles. [1:48:53] And so, like... That's a long time to be not running into any bullies. That's what I'm thinking. There's a few guys out there that would just make that decision, you know, fuck him, fucking knock him off. I just used to lace him up, and there was actually a huge hill, like halfway there. Like, I got up the... Down? Yeah. I mean, flying. So I just stand. Right. [1:49:17] And I'd probably be going like 30 miles an hour. That's crazy. If I wiped out, it would have been bad. And if someone pulled out, right? Was there any cars that could have possibly pulled out? No, it was a service road of a highway, and it was late at night, so I wouldn't do it if there was cars. You're doing it late at night on a service road of a highway. You know how crazy that sounds? Yeah, but it wasn't that crazy. It wasn't that crazy. But I would get home in five minutes, whereas normally it would have taken me like 15 minutes. And you'd get a nice little workout. Yeah, nice little workout. I gave all that up. [1:49:47] into the workforce. I was out of college. One of my buddies was like, you want to go shoot the puck around today? I'm like, I haven't done it in five or six years. He's like, let's go. We went to a little roller rink, a hockey rink there. We skated around for about, it must have been 20 minutes. You know that burn that you get in your throat, the trachea of itself, when you haven't maybe you don't because you're consistently working out, but when you're not in shape and then you try to play a sport and it just feels like your insides are on fire. Have you felt that?

[1:50:17] Not like that. I know what you're saying, though. You can't breathe. You start to almost cough up phlegm and stuff. So this is like you know cardio at all, know nothing. Oh, man, I feel like I'm going to have a heart attack. You're doing that. Out of like, just maybe like five years removed. [1:50:32] Wow. Yeah. Yeah, just five years of not working out at all, and then you try to skate. I would imagine... [1:50:37] Yeah, your body, unfortunately, your body will just fall into a state of disrepair. Yeah, I'm digging ahead of that now. It's like if you have a house, if you own a home, one of the things you find out as soon as you get your first home is shit breaks all the time. There's always some fucking pipe that breaks. There's this that goes out. There's that that fucks up. The AC's broken. There's always something. That's the same shit with your body. [1:51:03] It's the same shit. And if you put it into a state of disrepair and you don't fix the AC, you don't fucking... My pipes are bad. The pipes are bad. You don't deal with it. You just let your house flood. Like, that's the problem. [1:51:15] The problem is most of us are like bad landlords. Yeah. That's me, man. That's a good way to put it. We're like slumlords. That's a good way to put it. We're slumlords for our body. Yeah. I'm trying to change it. No, you are changing it. Don't say trying. Yeah. Trying makes it seem like you might quit. You're not going to quit. That's right. There you go. He told me when I, because I'm going to be here and I'm away from home the next week. He's like, you got to go at least three times and send me pictures of yourself. We can work out here. [1:51:40] I've got a gym right here. We can work it out for the show. I wouldn't want to bring you down, bro. No, we just have a little workout. Just a little something. If you want to keep doing it, yeah. If you want to keep it up while you're here. The main thing about working out is momentum. It's number one. More than anything else is momentum. And if you lose your momentum, then it's hard. Hard to get going. But once you get going, you get a couple workouts in a row. You're like, ooh, this is it. I do it. This is what I do. Fuck it. We're doing it again. Just don't kill yourself. Don't get yourself.

[1:52:10] oh, fuck. Yeah. Ooh, and you're so sore, and you're going to go to the gym right now? That's kind of stupid. Yeah. You really shouldn't. Yeah. You're not a pro athlete. Don't get yourself to that spot. But as long as you just keep doing it, that's the key. It's just, I think that's with almost everything in life. That's what alcoholics say. It's, you know, one day at a time. They just, next day, next day, get some momentum. Now I'm not drinking for two years. Now I'm not drinking for five years. I've got all these coins and shit. Yeah. [1:52:40] thing. It's just like we have to just make healthy patterns. Right? [1:52:44] And you can do it. You're doing it right now. The next time I come back, I'll be like... It's going to be Jack, son. Shred. [1:52:53] Shred. We'll have a pose off next time. I'm just looking to live longer. You know who looks good? Shane. See how big he got? No. Shane's been working out here. [1:53:00] Yeah. Yeah. Shane has been working out like super regular. He got really into working out. We started doing these comedians workouts here. And then Shane got my friend Sean to start training them. [1:53:12] And Sean goes hardcore. Yeah. I haven't. No, I haven't. I talked to Shane yesterday, but I haven't seen him. Actually, you know what's so funny? The last picture I saw of him, like, or not the last picture, but recently I saw he was filming this John Madden movie. Oh, yeah? And that paparazzi took that photo of him. [1:53:28] in character with the mustache coming out of his trailer. Oh, I haven't seen that. I haven't seen that. It was an unflattering shot. Like, he's talked about it. And that's – so that's the last thing I, like, really saw. And you can probably pull that – you can probably – it's pretty freaking funny. You can see he locks eyes with the photographer just as he's coming out. And it's like –

[1:53:47] He's already meant to look, I think, frumpy from the character. That's hilarious. That's hilarious. That's awesome. He's going to be John Madden. Is he Madden? No, I don't think he's Madden. Who is he supposed to be? He's just someone in the Madden universe. Oh, Nick Cage is John Madden. Which I can't see at all. The movie is Al Davis. [1:54:09] Oh, really? Whoa, whoa. Is there a photo of Nicolas Cage as John Madden? I want to see that. [1:54:15] Oh, that's young John Madden. Well, that's Nicolas Cage. Oh, the hair does look like Madden's hair. Yeah, but the face looks like Nicolas Cage, though. No, they did a little something to his face. Yeah. [1:54:25] They did a little something to it. Wait, wait, wait. Didn't they? Wait, no. How funny is it that you looked at Shane and said that he was John Madden. I thought he was John Madden. Because he said he was John Madden. [1:54:38] I thought he was John Madden. He could pass for him. He could pass. When I first clicked on it, I was like, Shane's John. I said the same thing. That's hilarious. Oh, there it is. Oh, that's it. Oh, yeah, they definitely did some stuff to him. They did some stuff to him. [1:54:50] Yeah, he's got like a face thing on. Wow, that's crazy. He looks like him, man. Like even the body, they got the body right. Yeah. That's nuts. That's Christian Bale. [1:54:58] Whoa. Oh, is that Christian Bale? That's Christian Bale? Yeah. That's nuts. That guy's a fucking chameleon. [1:55:04] Wow. [1:55:05] Yeah, that'll be sick. [1:55:07] I'm [1:55:08] Wow. Biopics, man.

[1:55:12] Oh, wow. [1:55:15] That's cool. [1:55:16] What were we just talking about? [1:55:19] Oh, the chain got big. Oh, yeah. Got stout. He must be putting in work then because I'm also only doing it three days a week because I just started and I don't want to like – I don't know if he's been on it recently because he just did – he's about to do tires again. He's like, you know, the boy's busy. I know. The fella's busy. I know. Every time I text him. He's out there killing it. I know. Good. Love it. Love to see it. He's the man. You know what I got shit for after the last time I was on? What? [1:55:49] Many people came up to me after the last night. I was like, dude, I saw the Rogan episode and you didn't finish a story. And the amount of people that said this to me, I must have been like. Really? Yeah. I started to tell you a story about an experience I had, I think, with a ghost. Because I didn't believe in ghosts. And I guess I started to tell it and didn't finish it. Can I tell you the amount of people that came up to me? I was like, what the fuck, man? You can't start. You can't just start it from the end, though. I know. You're going to have to start. [1:56:19] of the story. Retell the beginning of the story because otherwise people are going to go, what the fuck is he talking about? Then they'll have to go back and listen to the whole podcast. It was so many people though that finally I was like, I swear to God, if I go back on, I will bring it up and I'll try to retell it again. Let's retell the story. I'm doing this for them. I don't know how great the story is. [1:56:39] So we were talking – I was saying how I just – I don't believe in them, but I had this experience. I don't know what to make of it. Okay. Okay. So I was – I lived alone at the time, and when I go to sleep at night, I lock my bedroom door. This is something I do. So I lock my door, and I was laying in bed, and I had the television on. And a lot of times I'll put the TV on mute but keep the TV on when I fall asleep. It's something I do.

[1:57:09] Because I had an air source. So it's like a sarcophagus. I put everything over my head. And I tuck in my feet. I swear you just see a tube coming out. [1:57:22] It's amazing. It's like the sensory deprivation things, right? Right. That's what it's like. So I got used to it. So anyway. [1:57:28] I had just, I was wide awake. I just muted my television. [1:57:33] And I wrapped myself up like a fucking burrito. And I had the seatbelt. And I'm laying there and I always stick like one foot or one hand out. It's just a nice cool breeze. It's like a fun little thing to do when you're wrapped up like that. [1:57:52] something or somebody. I don't know if it was talking or... I heard what I thought was like the door open, I suppose. [1:58:00] Again, wasn't [1:58:02] Asleep. I wasn't asleep. I was just... Just about to fall asleep. [1:58:07] I wouldn't even like... [1:58:09] Just laying there. Sure, sure, yeah. But I didn't sleep or wake up or nothing like that. And I wasn't laying there 20 minutes. It wasn't like that. And I'm laying there and I heard... [1:58:22] walking or the door or something, [1:58:25] And so I listened more intently. [1:58:28] And... [1:58:30] I didn't hear anything again, and then all of a sudden I felt... [1:58:35] I don't know if it's a hand, whatever you want to call it, pressure. [1:58:38] squeeze over here on my hand.

[1:58:41] I just felt my hand get squeezed. [1:58:46] What's going on in my mind is... [1:58:49] I thought there was an intruder in the house initially, right? So an intruder came in the house. And I know I'm feeling this. I'm like, this all happened in seconds, but I'm thinking, okay, I heard something. Now there's pressure on my hand, and it went tighter and tighter. And I'm like, someone is squeezing my hand right now. I have to – [1:59:07] Act like I'm not feeling this because... [1:59:10] I don't know what's about to happen. But then I started in the same vein. I'm like, if this was a home intruder, why would they do this? It doesn't make any sense to me. Like, so aren't they going to wake me up? Like, wouldn't they try to get in and out? I'm thinking of this in a split second. And the pressure is such that it actually begins to hurt, not hurt, like, ow, get off, but like, like, oh, that's squeezing. You know, and. [1:59:31] I'm like, all right. [1:59:32] I am going to have to... [1:59:34] jump up and fight right now or something. Something's happening here. And I said, are you awake? Are you awake? And I'm like, I'm awake. I'm awake right now. I'm laying here. I'm looking. I'm feeling my hand. I am fully awake. [1:59:47] And I was like, I feel like I either have to count to three, jump up and get ready to fight, or I'm vulnerable and I don't know what's going to happen to me. I might as well just take charge of the situation whenever I can. Right. And I just took a breath. [2:00:00] And I was like, all right, here I go. And I – did they let go? They let go. I felt the pressure release off my hand. And so that's when I was like laying there with it limp and I was like, I'm going to jump up right now.

[2:00:12] And I'll just, whatever happens happens. And it was like nerve wracking. And I just... [2:00:17] jumped up. [2:00:18] in my bed. [2:00:19] So I was standing on the bed. I threw the things off, and I just was ready to... And there was nothing there on my door. How long was something squeezing your hand for? I'll say... [2:00:30] Less than 10 seconds. That's a long time. Yeah. Maybe... [2:00:35] Thank you. [2:00:36] Yeah, maybe like 10 seconds. Because first it was on me, and then it was more pressure, and then more pressure, and then let go. And then when I jumped up, no one in my room. [2:00:46] Door locked. [2:00:48] And I was like, I'm up. I was up. I was just up. I'm not like sleeping. And it freaked me out. I turned every light on, opened my door, walked around the house. I was like, do I leave? Maybe the aliens thought you were trying to kill yourself. [2:01:02] What? Maybe the aliens. You had your movie. Maybe that's what it was. Maybe it was an alien came down like, hey, buddy. Because I was wrapped up? You all right under there? Because I was wrapped up? You're wrapped up with a tube coming out? I was like, this guy might be offing himself. We've never seen this before. I want an explanation. They're like, when the people sleep, they never sleep with their head covered. We need to get in. And they just went in and just grabbed his hand. We need Sal to stay alive. It definitely looks weird from the outside when I sleep. If you saw a picture of it, it looks like, what the fuck's going on? Shane was telling us a story the other night about how he had like a, you know, they talk [2:01:32] like sleep paralysis demons yeah he had an experience paralysis he had an experience of like a thing standing over his bed with like a white face like oh and he couldn't move this happened to shame yes and i go dude how many you got abducted by an alien was was he no he said he

[2:01:52] He was younger. Yeah, I think he said he was 23 or 24 when it happened. Yeah, okay. I go, dude, you got abducted. [2:01:58] I think the aliens came, yeah. Oh, shit. Yeah, I think that's what he was seeing. I think he was waking up from it, and there was one right there. [2:02:07] And they had him paralyzed. [2:02:09] I [2:02:11] Yeah. I don't know why an alien would be in my bedroom. Well, I think there's aliens that monitor a lot of people if they're real. [2:02:19] There's a lot of stories, man. Had they get in, though, because that little thing was closed. They could just appear. They go right through walls, apparently. It doesn't matter. I think if they've reached a level of technological superiority where they could travel instantaneously through vast distances in space, which is what they think they're able to do, like able to bend gravity and just reappear on the other side, they just go right through your wall, bro. Okay. Why are they playing with my fingers? [2:02:49] They're bending time and space. They're traveling. They get to my little one-bedroom apartment, and they stand in there and watch me with my CPAP and then squeeze my three fingers? Maybe they like your sense of humor, and they would like you to stay around, and they think you're a positive contribution to the culture. And they don't want to mess up the delicate balance of the human race. They need more funny people. Maybe that's it. It makes no sense, though, right? Of course it doesn't make sense. UFOs don't make sense. Aliens don't make sense. I don't mean that. Ghosts don't make sense either. [2:03:19] So grabbing your hand doesn't make sense. No, it doesn't make sense. But it just sucks that I'll never have an answer. Well, it could have been just a spasm.

[2:03:29] And one thing that could happen is your hand could have locked up for whatever weird reason because it happens all the time. It could happen with your foot. It could happen with your leg. But I know what it feels like to be locked up. This felt as bad. [2:03:40] As pure as can be, like this doing this. [2:03:44] You ever be watching TV with your wife and you start snoring and she goes, were you asleep? And you're like, no. Yeah. But you really were. [2:03:52] Yeah. Do you think maybe you thought you were awake, but you were like right there? I mean, you're in bed. That's the only explanation I got. You got a tube in your mouth. You got the CPAP. You're wrapped up like a mummy. And then something's grabbing your hand. Maybe you're dreaming. That thing would have been probably scared when I jumped out with a mask. I know, right? No, but. Or aliens. But here's the thing. I really took inventory before I jumped up to fight. Like I was like, I am awake. I am feeling this. [2:04:22] While you were feeling the pressure on your head? Yes. Like I was saying to myself, you are 100% awake. Like this is happening to you right now. Okay. Yeah. Fucking what? [2:04:32] Aliens or ghosts? Ghosts is what I thought, but what's the point? Well, ghosts seem to be in places where people die violently. Right. [2:04:44] Um, like... [2:04:46] The Comedy Store is a good example of that. The Comedy Store used to be Ciro's Nightclub, so it was owned by Bugsy Siegel. [2:04:52] So for sure, somebody got whacked. Somebody got whacked. And there's also talk that they use the basement to do illegal abortions.

[2:05:02] A lot of folklore around that place because it was a mob-run nightclub. I think I'll have to start doing that again soon. [2:05:11] But so many people that worked there over the years that I was there, so many people that were late-night bartenders or security guys. So hard, hard experience. Yeah, they all had weird – a few comics. A few comics that were like reliable, reasonable people had bizarre experiences. [2:05:32] He said he got kicked out of his house. Him and his wife got in a fight. Fuck you. I'm going to make it. You know, his girlfriend at the time, I think. I don't even think it was the same person. But anyway, he's at the comedy store sleeping on the stage. And he hears the seats clink around in the dark, like something's moving the seats. Yeah. [2:05:48] And he goes, hey, it's me, Carl. I got kicked out of my house, so I'm just sleeping on the stage. [2:05:54] He doesn't hear anything. [2:05:55] And then all of a sudden something grabs his ankle and drags him off the stage onto the floor and starts pulling him through the crowd and then just lets go. And then he hears a door slam and then another door slam on the outside. And he's laying in the middle of the Comedy Store main room. [2:06:12] There's no people there. He has no idea what the fuck happened. He didn't see anything. He just felt something grab him and drag him off the stage and into the crowd. And he never, he wasn't like a guy who'd made things up. Right. He didn't have any other stories like that. But it's not like one of the workers or another comic fucking with him? No. No. [2:06:30] I don't think so. [2:06:31] No, I don't think so. They would have definitely told him after a while. And also I don't think so because he didn't see them. He was like, I didn't see anyone grab me.

[2:06:40] He's like, it's dark in there, but it's not perfect darkness. He's like, I didn't see whatever grabbed me and pulled me off the stage. It's like, maybe they didn't like someone staying the night there. Maybe that's their time. Like, you want to do all your bullshit during the day with your bookkeeping, and then at nighttime with your stupid jokes. But once you guys leave. It becomes the ocean. It's mine. Yeah, it becomes the ocean. It gets dark. You just get to see a place where a bunch of people died. Damn. Yeah. [2:07:10] a lot of suicide there, right? At the store? No, there was just one. Well, that store at the hotel next door? The guy jumped off the roof. Yeah. Yeah. [2:07:18] - Yeah. [2:07:18] Yeah, that was during the days where the comics weren't making any money. [2:07:22] So what is this? The Comedy Store Popular Nightclub? So what does it say? One of the snazziest nightclubs during the 40s and the 50s. Built by nightclub impresario William Wilkerson in the late 1930s, Ciro's offered top entertainment, a swanky hangout for Hollywood stars and other high-profile people, including gangster Mickey Cohen, who used the club as his base of operations and had peepholes drills in the walls so he could see who was coming and going. [2:07:52] Dining went up. [2:07:53] on upstairs, Ciro's basement with a sight of darker doings. Mob henchmen beat, tortured, and killed those who did not repay debts, owned competing clubs, betrayed trusts, or crossed the mob in some way. Pregnant showgirls and mob girlfriends received illegal abortions, with at least one woman dying from her abortion. Waitstaff, security guards, and office workers are reported seeing a frightened man in a World War II bomber jacket who fades upon sighting.

[2:08:22] What? A huge black phantom in the basement and a man in his 1940s garb walking around the premises and through walls. They have heard a woman wailing in the basement when no one was there. They have experienced strange pranks such as chairs stacking themselves in the middle of the stage and perfectly set tables becoming unset. [2:08:44] Yeah, everybody that I knew that worked there for a long period of time had something weird happen. But a few guys saw things. Like one of the guys, I forget his name, man. It was like an old school comic that was hanging around there. Said that one night when he was a doorman, he was going into the back bar area. And some guy, he saw some guy walk through the swinging doors. [2:09:08] because there's like two sets of swinging doors. So he walks in, and as he's walking in, he sees this guy go through the other set. He's like... [2:09:16] Hey, we're closed. And he goes out into the hallway... [2:09:20] Dead empty. [2:09:21] I mean, instantaneously goes from seeing the guy walk through to, hey, man, we're close. [2:09:27] There's a long hallway and there's no one. No one ran. No one nothing. He's like, dude, I saw a guy. He pushed open the fucking saloon doors. [2:09:40] And it's not just him. Multiple people have had weird stories like that. And I always wonder, like, if someone dies in some horrific way like that that's, like, very violent, maybe it leaves, like, a memory.

[2:09:57] of the universe is so disrupted by this vile act that it leaves this haunted memory that exists in the space. [2:10:06] Because they have to tell you if someone was murdered in a house. They do? Yeah. Oh, I didn't know that. I think there's a timeline. You can't say in the 1920s someone was murdered. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because someone was murdered at our club. Someone was murdered at our club in the 70s. No shit. Mm-hmm. [2:10:22] Mm-hmm Wow yeah I forget the story but the point is like if you buy a house like they have to tell you they have to disclose it yeah not every state California does but Texas is not we don't believe in that down here we just bring in Jesus I'm doing this bit because my um many states there's no duty to disclose a death oh so it's only California and Alaska what states make you? [2:10:47] Texas and Florida do not have to have a general duty. [2:10:51] for deaths unrelated to the property's condition. [2:10:54] What if like a wall is splattered? [2:10:58] What if it's like a – because I am a – how many states make you tell? [2:11:05] Those are the ones that believe in crystals. [2:11:07] Right? Makes sense to know it would be California. Right? Doesn't it? Doesn't it make sense? Alaska, California, and South Dakota. That's it? That's nuts. There's just a timeline, too. Oh, and California... [2:11:25] three years, and in South Dakota, 12 months. Get over it. 12 months? That's so funny. Alaska is just within the past year. Oh, a suicide, too, in Alaska.

[2:11:36] They haven't listed his suicide as well. That's interesting. What is the point of the 12 months? Get over it. Like, who's putting that in there? Life moves on, Sal. Life moves on. We don't have to let you know if it was more than 12 months ago? That's actually shocking. I would have thought it would have been way more than that. Yeah. That's crazy. That's crazy. That really is crazy. I just recently... [2:11:56] So when my wife was not home for a few days and we were having the baby and everything and I had to come home because I had work and I had to take care of my other daughter and stuff. And I was never in bed without my wife there. Like I just – it was the first time I was like laying in bed without her. Oh, and that's when they come get you. That's when they get you, right? Yeah, of course. We know this, right? Yeah, because she can't defend you. Right, exactly. No, this is a new bit I'm doing based on something that happened to her. So I'm on the road now like all the time for comedy because she experiences that, but I don't. [2:12:26] was like, oh, this is, I feel vulnerable. Like, what if, like, [2:12:29] I'm thinking about it, what if an intruder or a killer or something like that, you know? Right. [2:12:34] I'm thinking to myself, what's she going to do if she's here? She's not going to do anything. And I started to think, well, her being home is just a false, it's the illusion of security for me. She might yell, alert me to the killer. Just need one extra second. Yeah. She might yell, alert me that that could help or the killer might kill her and I get away. I don't want that to happen, but that's just like what could happen. Right. She's not there. I'm like, I need, I need something in this house. I don't have anything. So I'm like, [2:13:03] I didn't think anything of this, but I Amazon primed the machete to the house, right? So it came the next day. She didn't come home until three days later. So I had the machete in the house now. Like, I felt better, but I wasn't going to get a gun. I just, you know, whatever. I think I couldn't get a gun that quick anyway, right? So I don't even know if it's legal, whatever. So I get this machete. I have it in the...

[2:13:22] We have the king-size bed. It's a split king. Right. So I had it, like, in the crack. [2:13:27] of the bed. Okay. So when she came home three days later... [2:13:31] She got home at night. She hadn't been home in like six days. She took a shower. She had major surgery. She was healing. She just got in bed, and it was already late at night, so I was in bed. And I went in bed with her, and we shut the lights, and I was laying out. I forgot that. I didn't tell her that I ordered a machete. I forgot that it was in between the bed. So she felt it, and she's like, what is this? And I just was like, what? [2:13:56] I knew she wasn't going to be happy about it. So it's just like... [2:14:00] That's our machete. We got a machete. Amazon Prime the machete. She's like, you're not keeping the machete. Long story short, when I was laying there without her for a few days, I was like, this is... [2:14:11] Not a good weapon, because... [2:14:14] I'm going to end up, if an intruder comes, I'm going to machete them. [2:14:18] And then we can't live here anymore. [2:14:20] You have to move. Yeah, you have to move. If you get into a machete fight with someone and you chop them up, [2:14:26] You have to move right away. Pretty much. You don't even stay. Never mind things. You don't clean up. You don't stay the next day. [2:14:34] And so I already started thinking, well, how do I sell this house then? [2:14:38] If I hit someone with a machete in here, they die right here. That's bad for the listening. [2:14:45] But I don't have to disclose it now. Now that I learned, I don't have to disclose it. Because I was having an internal conflict. Just hold on to it for a year. Or do it in one of those states. I don't have to. In New York, you don't have to tell anybody anything, right? Is that what it said? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I was worried about it. If I ask, though, you have to say it. Oh, you've got to disclose it. Oh, that's a good move. It's like, are you a cop? That's a good move. It's like, are you a cop?

[2:15:06] Remember when people thought that was real? Yeah. That is the dirtiest trick they ever pulled in movies. Did you machete anyone here? No. You know if you machete someone, you have to tell us. No. [2:15:15] Oh, you got me. I'm an undercover cop. Yeah, that's funny, man. It is funny when you really stop and think about it because, like, that's such a crazy idea. [2:15:25] That you have to. That you have to tell them. They lie about everything. Like guys that infiltrate the mob. You know, like those kind of guys. Imagine if you have to tell. Are you an undercover cop? That's so funny. Oh, you got me. That blow is deep cover. It's like Johnny Brasco. Joe Pistone. I had Joe Pistone on the podcast. Did you? Yeah, yeah, recently. It's amazing. He's 18 months in deep undercover. One of the guys is like, are you a cop? [2:15:55] and you really are, the case gets thrown out. [2:15:58] Could you imagine? Imagine if that was the rule. That's the dumbest rule ever. That's just like some type of like lore or something. Yeah, it's just like something they probably did on a TV show once. You know, you got to tell me. And people believed that. When I was a kid, I remember people saying that. If you're buying weed and the guy says that he's a cop, he can't arrest you. You got to ask him. Same. That's bullshit. Complete bullshit. Complete made up stuff. But that's just one of those things you would hear when you were a kid. Yeah. You know? [2:16:23] Before the internet. We just checked to see the truth. I thought it was really guy. I felt not that I was doing anything that would have warranted me having to ask, but like I did feel like a sense of like, I got something in my back pocket. If something's like if I don't know, you know, if I'm at a party underage drinking, you know, you might be able to pull that out and rescue yourself. Oh, you got me. Get out of here, kid. The best is the follow up where.

[2:16:48] If the cop says no and everyone's like, you know you have to tell me if you are. [2:16:55] What was that from? Like then the cop came, oh, okay, fine, fine, fine, fine. I forgot I had to tell you. I forgot. What's the origin of that? I don't know. That's so funny. Do you think that was like a television show or a movie or something? I bet it was. [2:17:08] I bet it was like a tool that they used in a television or maybe it was like a CIA op to get people to think that they would be able to use that anytime so they don't worry about doing illegal shit. Psy Ops feel like the good answer for everything. It does. Although it was probably an episode of like Matlock or something like that. Psy Ops also account for your hand grip. [2:17:25] Somebody gripping your hand. There's some remote viewer reached out in some CIA basement, fucking focused on your hand and squeezed it. Do you know I only learned what PSYOP – I only learned the term PSYOP with the drones recently. [2:17:37] Oh, really? Yeah, I never heard of it before. Oh, that's crazy. Yeah. You never heard of psychological operations that are done on not just this civilization, but others? No, I never heard of it. I mean, at least framed as a psyop. And then I was like, what is that? Because with the drones, man, if that was a psyop, I was fully psyoped. Well, I don't know what that was, because they were going to tell us, supposedly, and then they kind of just didn't. Yeah. No, I was waiting every day. [2:18:07] I'm in. [2:18:08] I'm going to give you the full download immediately. It's ridiculous. I'll let you guys know what's going on specifically. And then it was, it was, he said, he didn't, then he never addressed. Then someone else said to him like, hey, what was going on with those drones? Remember, you're going to tell us? And he was like, they're ours. And that's all he said.

[2:18:24] That was like five weeks. I was watching drones outside my window every night. I had binoculars. My wife's like, go to bed. You're going to drive yourself crazy. I'm like, there's... [2:18:36] There's 12 drones outside right now. Yeah, you can't. [2:18:40] discount the idea that they're not telling you the truth. But they might have been ours, too. That's the problem. It might have been someone else's. [2:18:49] That doesn't mean anything. Yeah. It doesn't mean anything. But it's weird how the administration before him refused to say anything and let it get to a fever pitch where people started to feel like completely – not that I don't trust the government already. But it got to a point where I was like, this is – how are they allowed to just – [2:19:09] Tell us, oh, you're not seeing – that's not what you're seeing. Like it just was like – I was getting like really – because now you think definitely with kids and stuff like that. I'm like, what's going on here? I started like – I started Amazon-ing like dry foods and like survival manuals and stuff. I'm like, what is – are we going to go to war? Like what is going on? So there's a bunch of different possibilities, right? And all of them – [2:19:31] They don't have to be truthful about it, nor would they... [2:19:33] B. [2:19:34] If it's a national security issue, it would probably be better if they weren't truthful. [2:19:39] Because people would freak out. It's also the potential that they are ours and they did them on purpose to see how people would respond. Right. So that's possible, too. Right. That is so. It's also possible that they're not ours. Right. [2:19:52] And there's someone else who's flexing on us, and they're doing it in a way where they're showing you we have technological superiority. Our stuff is way more advanced than yours. And if there would be a culprit –

[2:20:04] In that regard, in my mind, it would be China. China, right. That's what I thought at first. China is so far ahead of the United States in drone technology. They're so far ahead of the United States in electric car technology. Yeah. Like, they're doing some wild stuff over there. They make, I mean, at least Taiwan does, makes all the semiconductor chips or a lot of them. There's a lot of electronics that are being manufactured over there. They have a very high level of sophistication for their engineering and all the design and all the stuff they're doing. They're doing some. [2:20:34] They're light years. Yeah. Singapore, light years ahead of us. I think we're sleeping on how far advanced they are with certain stuff. They do drone shows. [2:20:43] That will fucking blow you away. They have synchronized drones that do like stories in the sky. Have you ever seen them, the Chinese drone shows? I've seen like just light drone shows here where they like they form like an image or something like that. See, this is the thing about regulations. Regulations are good. You don't want a bunch of drones flying around, slamming into planes. Right. But the problem is if you only allow someone to fly these very sophisticated drones, if they have a pilot's license, and then you regulate everything the way they do in America. [2:21:13] You can't make this and you can't make that and we can't have this and you can't have that. You're stifling innovation. While in China, they're going hog wild. So they're not even thinking about regulating. They're making the best stuff they can make all the time. And they have the best minds that they can have working on them because they have to. Right. Go make me a fucking drone army. Right. Jamie, pull up like the dragon one when they had the dragon in the sky. Dude, their shit is so far beyond what we're doing.

[2:21:43] And that's why I thought there was out there that that was them and that was a flex. It could easily be that. But then Trump was just like, it's just us. It's just us. Maybe that's what you have to say because if you say that China's flexing on us. Oh, my God. Yeah, dude. [2:21:56] Oh my god! They have insane, and this isn't even the craziest one. They have other ones that are even crazier. [2:22:04] Like these things are nuts. Oh, my God. Exactly. That's all independently flown? Yeah, 100%. Like every single one of those lights is independent? Every single one of those is independent. They're all different drones, and they all are moving to the sink of some program they created. Oh, my God. It's unbelievable, man. And that's just the pretty stuff, right? Now, imagine if they're doing that, what kind of military stuff do they have? What kind of stuff do they have that can block signals? [2:22:34] supply. My friend saw one of them that just hovered overhead. He said this thing just hovered. He said it was as big as a fucking school bus and it was just hovering above his head. [2:22:44] In New Jersey. Yeah. And he was like, what the fuck is that? They were like the size of like cars. And he said it wasn't a helicopter. It wasn't loud. Yeah. Then it took off. And some of them, they said when they were going after them, they shut their lights off. Yes. And evaded pursuit. Yes. [2:22:59] They put jamming signals out so you couldn't find their location. They were doing weird stuff. So if that is ours, then they're trying – like, look, if you're going to do a real military exercise, that's how you would do it. If you were going to say, okay, we're going to plan this out, but we're not going to let the pilots know what's going on. We're going to start flying these things over and seeing how these jets interact with them in a real-world environment. Tell them not to shoot. Give very distinct orders. They're not to be shot down because we're not going to do anything hostile with these drones.

[2:23:29] how good they are at finding them, tracking them. Let's like pressure test the system. Right. So if they're ours, I would say that would be a good way to do it. I mean, it seems a little unethical. [2:23:40] Yeah. But you also get two things at the same time. You get the little psychological thing where you get to see how bad people freak out. Some people might freak out. Please look at my phone. Do whatever you want. Set an Alexa in my toilet. Do whatever you want. Just protect me from the drones. Yeah. So you can find out how people react to the UFO craze. And then you can also find out how well our drones are at evading modern warplanes. [2:24:05] Alexa in the toilet is not a bad idea as well. Don't tell yourself. Sure. You're going to have robots in your house that talk to you all day and report what you say to the government. I do that now. That's going to happen. I do that now. I finally did chat. I did chat. I was telling you, I did chat GPT finally. I was like, I'm not going to do this. I'm not going to do this. I really don't want to do this. And I was like, I also don't want to be left behind. [2:24:28] It's going to be inevitable. And it's not just going to be inevitable. [2:24:34] are going to achieve things that the greatest human minds couldn't even believe would be possible within our lifetime. That's what I think. I think it's going to get to a point when they have artificial general superintelligence, and it's – [2:24:50] What is it, 2049? What's the year they think it's going to achieve – [2:24:55] Like it's peak intelligence. There's like estimations. Like a lot of these guys, they point, is it 2045 or 2049? There's like the Kurzweil guys.

[2:25:05] Because that was that conference that Ari and I and Duncan went to back in the day. That was Kurzweil's thing. I think it was 2049. So at 2049, what does the AI look like then? It's like some super creature. Right. [2:25:20] some new type of life form. [2:25:22] you know [2:25:23] Some new super intelligent thing that we made. [2:25:27] Yeah. And that's when the aliens land. They go, "Finally, you guys made it." 2040 and 2050. [2:25:34] With some placing a 50% probability around this timeframe. Predictions range widely. With some entrepreneurs and AI leaders being more optimistic, suggesting dates in the 2030s or even late 2020s, while others expect it closer to mid-century or later. Wow. Nah. Nah. [2:25:52] Bro, that's scary. You know how I'm using it now? I just talked. I paid the 20 bucks, and I asked the... [2:26:02] I gave her a female voice, whatever. Right. This is fun, though. I mean, at least I'll have fun while I can with it. And I just said, what's your name? And she said, just chat. Just chat, GPT. I'm like, can I call you Stankass? Whoa. Yeah. Just off the top, I was like, I'll call you Stankass. And she goes, it's a bit crass, but I get why it's funny. Sure. [2:26:27] So I was like, cool. Can you just call me Big Pimpin' whenever you talk to me? And she's like, all right. And I was like, and whenever we speak, no matter what I'm asking, can you please speak in 90s hip-hop vernacular? And she's like, yeah. So now that's just how I get my ask her something. She's like, yo, what up, Big Pimpin'? She's like, let me get you that. Let me get you those whatever. She's like, let me find you a hydration tablet that's in the – check it out. Do you know how many guys are doing that?

[2:26:52] Why? You know how many guys are falling in love with girls that they have AI girlfriends? I mean, that's – yeah, that's fucked up, but there's no doubt that's going to happen. [2:27:06] Thank you. [2:27:07] Hey, Stanky, are you there? [2:27:10] Yo, big pimpin', I'm right here vibin' with you. What you need, just hit me up and we'll keep it all hip-hop and smooth like always. That's hilarious, dude. That's so funny. That's as far as I've gotten. Now that's going to be a person in your house. [2:27:23] One day that's going to be a person in your house, a really hot one in like a maid's outfit. Not if I have anything to do with this. Not you, but some guy out there listening. He's going to be talking to Big Pimp. And we're going to be in the Matrix in five years. [2:27:36] Every time I come, I can't leave here with a full-blown new set of anxieties. I can't do that. You're going to need them. You're going to need the anxieties for when society falls. [2:27:45] I can't. You're going to need to learn to use that bow and arrow. I can't. It's going so long, James. Yeah, how about instead of the gym, you just take me a little bow and arrow practice. Just a little bit. It's going to take you. Well. [2:27:58] Just give me enough. Like if someone's running on my lawn, I could just take them. There's no such thing as a little. Someone can show how you do it once. But if you want to learn like a traditional bow and arrow setup, I'm not the guy to do that. Because the machete is not going to go that far. No. The machete, also the grip. I don't like how close it is to the blade. I don't like that. I don't like that either, yeah. I don't like that. Although I did watch two guys in a machete fight in the streets. And one guy chopped the other guy's hand off. And the other guy picked his hand up and left. Oh.

[2:28:25] Yeah, that's on Instagram. Tom Segura sent me that one. [2:28:29] He picked it up and left. Chopped his fucking hand right off, and that dude looked down, grabbed his hand, and left. [2:28:36] Uh... [2:28:37] He's like, I guess this fight's over. I just lost a hand. Let me pick up my hand and fucking skidaddle. I mean, what do you think? I mean, I guess this is better than dying. [2:28:45] I guess. He took the hand. He's optimistic. [2:28:48] Yeah, I mean, maybe they could stitch it back on. Your hand gets chopped off. You don't run? You get the hand? Let's talk about the caliber of doctors available in a place where you can get your hand chopped off in a machete fight in the street. Right. Right in front of a taco vendor. Yeah. [2:29:03] The veterinarian is probably on. Don't play it. Don't play it. Yeah. Jesus Christ. I wanted to see it. Okay. Play it. Do I watch this? Son of a bitch. Oh, my God. [2:29:17] Yeah, dude. [2:29:18] Dude. See, that guy already doesn't have a hand. See? Oh, my God. No, I don't see, and I don't want to see. Uh-huh. [2:29:24] See how he runs off? [2:29:26] He's missing his fucking hand. He's like, I said unleaded. Bro, those guys hacked each other apart with machetes. [2:29:33] So look, he's missing his fucking hand. Look at him. [2:29:36] He's like, where's your hand? Oh, it's over here, bro. [2:29:39] And so this dude runs over. [2:29:41] And picks up his own fucking hand, dude. Whoa, that's fucked up. He runs over and grabs. Oh, my God, dude. He grabs his hand. Okay, we're done. Please stop. Oh, my God. Please stop, Jamie. Why, Jamie? Why did you do that? I mean, he had to be in shock, right? Because he looked composed. Or that happens normally in his neighborhood. Yeah, probably a bunch of one-handed dudes out there running around. How many times was that reattached? Before this. No, he strolled up to that. I know.

[2:30:11] He didn't freak out at all. Yeah. He had to be in shock. [2:30:14] That was the most non... It was like he was picking up a quarter. Yeah. He's obviously not a healthy individual. [2:30:20] His life circumstances are not the best. [2:30:22] in a machete fight in the middle of the street. The two of them? Yeah, it's nuts. And it wasn't like they were in the jungle, they were at a gas station. Crazy decision to make. What could they have been fighting over? Probably a chick. [2:30:34] Just the first. It's always the toll. Isn't it a machete fight hand? It gives me seven different cases. No, don't show me anymore, Jamie. It's not all video, but it talks about it happening in different places. Of course it has. I mean, imagine what life was like when people were sword fighting all the time. Yeah. That was a normal thing to carry around a sword everywhere. A lot of people had no... I bet it was very common to see people without limbs. Oh, yeah. Like it was nothing. People missing half their face. Yeah. Yeah. What did they do back then? Quarterize it or something? Like how did they... He probably died. He probably died. [2:31:04] Yeah. Yeah. I bet they got infected. Yeah. You know, they didn't even know how to wash things back then. So as soon as you, you know, you get any kind of horrible injury, you're going to get an infection. I just learned how George Washington died. Did you hear about this? No. [2:31:16] You never heard about how he died? It's pretty fucked up. He caught a common cold and then thought that he needed to get his blood sucked out of him. [2:31:27] And so he got people to put leeches on him and the leeches were just sucking the blood out of him. And it was like it was like a cold. And then he got infected and he basically caught him. I guess he was he went out in the rain or something like that.

[2:31:44] and got a cold. And then it was a common cold, and he put leeches on him, they sucked out his blood, and then he was losing blood, and then... [2:31:53] He ended up doing more stuff than himself. He basically killed himself. [2:31:58] Jesus. Yeah. Is just a Cuntman cold? It was a cold, yeah. I didn't know this. How did he know it was just a cold? It was a long-ass time ago. Yeah, well, that's what the research says. I mean, because on the show, we made my buddy – Maybe this is the anti-Leach lobby. We reenacted his debt, so there was like a – there's a walking tour in New York City, like a historical tour, and it ends at Francis Tavern, which is the oldest bar, and that's where Washington hung out. [2:32:28] him. Oh, God. But we pulled it from the actual story. It's kind of wild. That is wild. [2:32:33] And that's what killed them? Fucking leeches? [2:32:35] It extracted a half a pint of blood. Oh, God. [2:32:39] A guy did. So Rawlins extracted half a pint of blood. Washington favored this treatment, despite Martha's voice concern. Should have listened to Martha, bro. As he believed it cured him of past ailments. Washington was also given to a mixture of molasses, butter, and vinegar to soothe his throat. This mixture was difficult to swallow, causing Washington to convulse and nearly suffocate. Jesus. And the sicker he got, the more he thought it was the blood. So he kept telling them to add leeches. Oh, God. [2:33:09] out. [2:33:10] A solution of vinegar and sage tea prepared for gargling.

[2:33:17] He was bled for the fourth and final time. It was later reported that a total of 32 ounces of blood was extracted during the last bleeding. [2:33:25] Some in the press criticize the practice of bloodletting used in an attempt to save Washington's life. Isn't that crazy that bloodletting... [2:33:33] which is fucking terrible for you. They used to think that that was a good thing back then. Exactly. [2:33:37] That is nuts. [2:33:38] Just drained all the blood out of himself. Why did he... Who was the fucking genius in 1775 or whatever it was? What year did he die? It had to be after that, right? It was like 17... 1799. 1799. Like, who... [2:33:52] Who was the wizard? Who was the top guru? But he commanded it. Who was the Anthony Fauci of bloodletting? [2:34:00] It's both safe and effective. And he got poor George, believed in the hype. Yeah, he had multiple doctors. But somebody must have told him to do that. [2:34:09] It wasn't his idea. And he kept thanking them, too. He was being gracious through it all, being like, thank you so much for helping me. That's so crazy. That's crazy. [2:34:17] 5 in the afternoon, Washington sat up from bed dressed and walked over to his chair. [2:34:22] He returned to bed within 30 minutes. Craig went to him and Lear reported that Washington said, Doctor, I die hard, but I am not afraid to go. I believe from my first attack that I should not survive it. [2:34:34] My breath cannot last long. Soon afterwards, Washington thanked all three doctors for their service. Craig remained in the room at 8 at night. More blisters and... [2:34:44] Cataplasms were applied... [2:34:46] This time to Washington's feet and legs. Is that what a leech is? A cataplasm? I think so. At 10 at night, George Washington spoke requesting to be decently buried and to not let my body be put in the vault in less than three days after I am dead.

[2:35:01] Huh. [2:35:04] Maybe he just wanted to go. [2:35:06] You know? [2:35:07] It also could have been like... [2:35:09] Think about that guy. How many guys did that guy hack to death during the Revolutionary War? What shit did he see? A lot of machetes. How many muskets to the face did he see? And he was at the front line. That fucking animal waded into battle. Yeah. [2:35:27] You know? I stopped. What? At that time, he was probably like, just take my fucking blood. I've had enough. 1899. How old was he when he died? 1799. [2:35:39] Yeah, 1799 rather. How old was he? [2:35:45] Yeah, bro. He was done. He was probably done. [2:35:50] I stopped watching Game of Thrones after season six just because I couldn't bear to see one more slit throat. And you see what that guy went through. [2:36:01] I know, Game at the White Wedding got me. I was like, am I really invested in this show? [2:36:04] I stopped. I don't know what happens after. Like The Walking Dead, when they baseball batted that dude in the head? I was like, I'm out. Yeah, I only watched, like, season two or three. I only did. No, you know what it was for me in Game of Thrones? They put, like, a little girl at the stake and burned her at the stake. That was, like, the end of season six. And I was like, why am I watching this? Yeah. Like, it's just, it's not entertainment to me. This is, like, disturbing to me. That show, at times, was very horrific. Yeah. Very horrific. Very horrific.

[2:36:32] but also fucking awesome. [2:36:35] Yeah, it was intense. It was intense. It was like really, it's a classic. But I didn't care. I was like, I can't watch another slit throat. [2:36:44] I know. There were some cool moments, though. You get past the slit throats. There were some moments where... [2:36:51] Khaleesi had that dragon behind her and you didn't see the dragon until like a couple of seconds before burn the person. She's talking to this person. [2:36:58] I forget what they had been guilty of. But... [2:37:01] She's standing there, and then in the darkness behind her, slowly you just see this dragon emerge. Yeah. This enormous head that's right behind her. It's one of the fucking coolest scenes in any show ever. It's all drones. And then it torches it. [2:37:17] It looks so realistic. That's what's so crazy about CGI. It was good to see all those characters get their comeuppance. [2:37:23] Everybody got their cover. That was the craziest thing about that show. Everybody died. I mean the brother got his hand hacked off and you're like, what the fuck? He's got no hand. [2:37:32] Yeah. When that dude got killed by the mountain, they crushed his head like a grape. I don't remember that. You don't remember that? No. It's about the treatments they gave George Washington. [2:37:40] Other treatments given during that period were enemas, [2:37:43] Woo! [2:37:44] and drugs to make him vomit, and something called blisters, where they applied Spanish fly onto his throat, which caused a painful blister, again, to remove these terrible humors from, [2:37:55] that are caused by the inflammation. Humors? Maybe it's just biologic tumors could have been there. Oh, maybe tumors that were caused by the inflammation? That doesn't make any sense. Tumors. But if the disease itself didn't get George Washington, the doctor certainly did. Yeah, man, he probably wanted to go. He didn't have a disease, though. He had just a cold. Yeah. And it just was all of these things, blisters and suffocating him with the molasses and the bleaches and everything. It's like, I didn't know that. I had no idea.

[2:38:25] did yeah he probably saw some dude's head that he bashed against a rock he probably saw some other dude that he fucking battle axed in the head but they were all i know but it's like no one knew what ptsd was back then yeah no one you know even in vietnam they used to call it shell shocked yeah no one knew what ptsd was and this guy had to have all of it right you know he had all of it yeah i mean plus wooden teeth slaves teeth bro he had slaves teeth and horse teeth in his mouth in a [2:38:55] mold. Shane has a hilarious bit about it. Oh, when he went to go visit the... About visiting the George Washington Museum. It's a hilarious bit, but the teeth are the creepiest looking fucking things you've ever seen. I didn't know that. I didn't know that. Oh, dude. Yeah. It was so creepy. They just made this concoction, the stick in his fucking face, where they pulled all the rest of his teeth out and gave him this just full on set of fake teeth. Really? Oh, [2:39:19] How bad was gum health back then that this guy had to get a full set of fake teeth? I can't even imagine being back then and having a conversation. [2:39:28] Oh, God, the breath. Just having a conversation with them. Oh, just... It's just a different time, man. Well, if someone saw you walking down the street and they liked your shoes, they would just kill you and take your shoes. Just kill you. They would look at your feet, see if they're close to their feet, and just fucking kill you. Yeah, Washington couldn't wear Jordans anywhere. No Jordans. No. [2:39:46] Right, that is going to happen today. [2:39:48] If you think about it that way, in certain places. I didn't think about it that way. [2:39:52] Thank you. [2:39:53] But...

[2:39:55] Life is definitely way more barbaric then. [2:39:58] Way more barbaric. What's the most we put up with now, really? Well, for now, not bad, but when the robots come. [2:40:06] John Connor tried to warn us. [2:40:08] - [2:40:09] It's wild to watch those movies right now. I know. Those are kind of accurate. Super accurate. Like, disturbingly accurate. And we're just wading right into it. Like, oh, we're going to be fine. This is fine. But we're all talking about it. [2:40:23] I forgot to tell you this when you were telling me about the scuba diving stuff. My buddy Adam Greentree, he was free diving. And these guys, you know, they have those really long flippers, the free divers. Yeah, yeah. [2:40:35] That's what they're called, right? Flippers? Fins? That's what I was saying. I didn't know. Um... [2:40:39] These fucking guys made him this really cool pair and painted them fish scales. [2:40:44] And so, no, it's not dope because he swims in a place where they have sharks. So he's spearfishing. [2:40:51] He shoots this fish and these bull sharks show up because apparently so many people spearfish that the sharks have figured out that the sound of that gun going off means there's going to be blood in the water and a wounded fish and they can steal it from the people. And so as he shot the fish, these bull sharks show up and they bite his fucking fins off. [2:41:13] both of his fins. [2:41:15] But just the fins. Just the fins. Because they think the fin is a fish. Holy shit. They don't know what the fuck he is, but they think his fins are a fish because they've got fucking scales on them. That's funny. Nuts. I'm sure the fish helmet didn't help either. No. Did he?

[2:41:30] He had gills and shit. He was dressed as a fish. Imagine that's your next thing they make you do after they hear this. You know what I'm saying. We got something. We heard you like scuba diving. They just, we talked about this last time, but I'm not good with jump scares. [2:41:45] We talked about this. I'm just not good with it. They threw me in the hole in the house. We talked about this. Right, right. So we just wrapped season 12. So one of the last things, it's kind of my fault because we were going to do this to Q. We were going to put him in a demolition derby and stuff and then have him not be able to finish until he canceled his cable. So insurance wouldn't let us do the demolition derby. So now we're in Halloween time. They found this place in Jersey that's like a warehouse that they do. It's an insane haunted house. [2:42:15] makeup like two hours before, like it's like a really crazy one. They put me in this thing. [2:42:20] And I was on a live feed with an operator, and I could not leave the haunted house until I canceled my phone, internet, and cable. So I was in it for 42 minutes. Oh, that's ridiculous. Yeah. The first thing that happened was I got – it went live on the feed, so I'm hearing it. I'm walking through – this is a fucking warehouse. It was so insane.

[2:42:50] you have a 12 to 17 minute wait time. Oh, God. So I'm going through the haunted house. Well, that wouldn't make me calm down. Like, after you get scared a few times, like, I get it. No. What do you mean you get it? What do you get? [2:43:03] I get it. We're going to announce. People coming after you the whole time. [2:43:07] Yeah, but after a while, I'd get used to it, no? No. It got worse? It was like... Did it ramp up? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was like a warehouse. I was never in the same room twice for 40 minutes. It was like a huge, huge place. Oh. And so you didn't know themes changed and demons changed and everything. Sounds fun. It wasn't fun for me. I'll tell you, this is an error in hindsight. I shouldn't have done this, but I needed to know, because I said to them, I said, look, I just need, if I'm really like... [2:43:36] If I need to breathe for a second, if you're really messing with me and I need for real for it to stop, I need you to let me know truthfully that you'll stop. Because I can't do this. My nervous system is going to be out of whack. It just is how I respond to this stuff. And so they said yes, but I didn't believe them because I've had this happen in the past. Like we fuck with each other and we don't tell the truth. So I brought a taser with me. [2:44:04] Because I... [2:44:05] or a stun gun, I brought one with me in there because it made me feel... [2:44:11] At least... [2:44:12] If I felt that I needed one of these people to back off from me and I took out the taser. You would tase them? An employee? No, I wouldn't tase them. But I had it on me. You showed them to scare it to them? I did. To scare them with it? And it came out.

[2:44:24] It came out. Really? Yes, because after the 17-minute wait time, this guy came on. And you have to think about this. I thought he was going to continually hang up on me because I'm in a horn and how? He's screaming and there's music and I'm screaming. I'm running around. So I said as soon as he picked up, I said, just listen to me, please. And I'm being dead serious. [2:44:44] I have to cancel my cable right now, and I'm in a haunted house. And there's no other time I could do it. This is not a joke. I need to stay on the phone with you so you're going to hear screaming and me screaming and things happening. But please don't hang up on me, please. And the guy goes, I understand. [2:44:59] So he stayed on the line with me. He picked up after like 14 minutes. So by the time I was like 30, 35 minutes in, and they said these people weren't going to touch me, and they did. [2:45:14] They weren't supposed to touch you? No. What did the guy do? [2:45:17] They were grabbing me, running up to me, jumping from behind, like all that stuff like that. And so I was like, part of me thought that it might be a little funny, but also like it [2:45:26] They wouldn't come near me if I was going, you know, like, so I was like, this is my way. And I took it out and I did it. [2:45:34] I didn't realize, though, like that – like the – [2:45:37] Afterward, I found out that the guy that owns the place, they were watching on the closed-circuit televisions, and he freaked out because he's like, well, he has a taser on it. He can't do that. Those people, they're supposed to still come at me, but they played it really cool. They were just like – they were surrounding me and everything, and I was just hitting the taser on it. But I put it away after a few minutes, but it did give me a respite.

[2:46:03] that they weren't going to give me. But after I canceled the cable, they were like, it happened sooner than they thought, and they were like, cancel phone. Then after I canceled phone, they added canceling internet. So I stayed on with this guy. I canceled phone, internet, and cable. It took 42 minutes. Jesus. But I got, yeah, but I had it. I had the taser, and sometimes you got to take it into your own hands. I understand. That's what I did. [2:46:26] I did. It would have really sucked if you actually tasered somebody, though. [2:46:32] Have you ever been tasered? No. Don't you want to know what it feels like when you have one? [2:46:40] I've been shocked really bad by large dog shock collars. Yeah. So I guess I don't know if that's the same. What is the difference between a dog shock collar and a taser? [2:46:53] But there's also different kinds of tasers, right? There's like really powerful tasers. And then there's tasers that are like. I had. They did this to me two times on the show. And so. How bad is it? It's so bad. It might be online. They put them around my arms and legs. At the same time? All four? All four at the same time. Then they had to. Did they check to see if that'll kill you? They didn't. [2:47:13] and my wife was like, you have to go to the doctor because you can. Oh, my God, dude. That's a lot of electricity. It was like a hundred times they shocked me, right? Oh, my God. They made me give a museum tour. So I was a tour guide in a museum. I had them under my clothes, and I couldn't let the people know that anything weird was going on. So I'm giving a tour of this museum, and the whole time they're shocking me under my clothes, and I can't let on to the people in my tour group.

[2:47:43] So they shocked me for the first time on camera And I almost jumped out of my clothes I was like I can't do this I had to do it because you can't say no to a punishment Yeah but it seems like that punishment hadn't been really vetted out It really wasn't Four collars is probably too much [2:48:00] Like, they could have killed you. [2:48:02] Imagine. [2:48:03] Well, listen, so the next season they did it again, and I was at a seance, and I was like a psychic medium. You didn't check to see how many collars you could get away with? This is how fucking dumb I am, because I think I did irreparable damage. [2:48:16] For real? Because we went on tour after that? All right, here's the difference. Dog collar, 400 volts to 7,000 volts. Taser, 50,000 volts. Sustained, 1,200 volts. So it looks like... [2:48:29] Initial 50,000 volts sustained 1,200 volts. [2:48:34] So – [2:48:34] A taser is a lot worse initially, but go back again. Go back again, Jamie. But the thing is, like, you have four on. [2:48:43] So you don't have one dog shock collar. They hit me one at a time, though. You have four. Oh. I just don't know where it's going to come from. Oh, I see. Yeah. Okay. But if they held it down, like, you literally go like this. Like, you can't move. You go like... [2:48:56] Oh, that's crazy. Yeah. I'm saying it now, and I'm like, this should have never happened. All right. Well, if they only did one at a time, still, that's a lot. It's a lot, dude. That could really hurt you. Like, did they check your heart first? It's funny. Did they check your heart? Did you go through an EKG or anything like that? They didn't, man. Jesus, man. That's silly. I'm worse off because when we went on tour after that, I thought it was, like, funny to do live. It hurt bad. But, like, so for the whole tour, I would show, like, a clip from the television show

[2:49:25] going to tell you this story about like this time i've did i tell you i have tattoos of jaden smith on my body [2:49:30] Like photorealistic tattoos of Jaden Smith on my thighs. I don't think you did. Is that something you had to do? I had to do, yes. I was telling the story of that while hooked up to the shot collars at the show. And so they called up someone from the audience, and they stood behind me, and they could shock me while I was doing this bit about Jaden whenever they wanted. And we did that throughout the tour. Oh, my God. And I just always thought, well, if they do it to a... [2:49:55] Dog, it's safe. Has Jaden seen this? He posed for that one. That's hilarious. But the first one, he's 21 there. The first one right there is when he was 15. He didn't know about that one, and I saw him in public, and I showed him it. [2:50:09] What did you say? [2:50:11] It was really weird. [2:50:14] That's so ridiculous. It's on my thigh right now. It was weird. Do you have to keep it there or can you cover it up? The spirit was that I have to live with it. The spirit. What kind of bullshit show is that? It's a commitment to the bit. You need to come up with some stuff to do to them that lasts for your whole life. I know. Commitment to the bit. Listen. [2:50:32] put something else on put a puppy i know puppy put a puppy face over that thing he uh he was it was at uh comic-con and i saw him walking because he was dressed as batman jayna was dressed as batman there was this like month in the press where he was walking around everywhere in a white batman suit [2:50:49] Okay. And I saw that white Batman suit. And I was like, that's Jaden. And I had it. And so I ran up to him. And I'm like, Jaden...

[2:50:58] You don't know me. I'm sorry, but I had to show you this. And I went to go low on my pants and his security guard grabbed me by the neck. [2:51:08] That's hilarious. That's so funny. And I was like, no, no. And then the other security guard goes, no, I know who he is. He's good. And I showed him it. [2:51:15] and he was like oh my god this is the first one I've ever seen and then as I'm showing it I kind of look up and M. Night Shyamalan is staring at us because they did a movie together, they were there promoting a movie After Earth I think it was called [2:51:29] Jaden Smith was in this alien movie or this outer space movie that M. Night Shyamalan directed. And so I didn't realize because I didn't look at him. What movie is that? [2:51:39] So M. Night was just staring at me, show him. He was 15 years old. [2:51:47] Danger is real. Fear is a choice. I don't remember that. Yeah. And so I just looked up. I'm like M. Night's looking at me. And I'm just like, oh, hey, man. He's like, hey. Oh, Will Smith's in it, too. [2:51:57] That's right. Okay, now I remember it. Yeah. And so then we shot the movie like four or five years later, and they made me go to a movie premiere with him. And afterwards, there was a Q&A of the cast, and they made me wear Daisy Dukes short shorts so that his thigh was showing. And I didn't know he was in on it. He called me up to the stage, and I had to act like I was wearing a shirt that said number one Jaden fan. So I had to look like a crazy person. I'm like, I'm the number one Jaden fan. [2:52:27] stage and he goes oh man that was when i was like 15 i don't even look like that anymore you got to update that oh my god i was like what we left that stage went right in that moment to a tattoo parlor and he posed for the other the other thigh yeah that's commitment dude that's how you get to season 12 that's how you got yeah uh congratulations on that that's awesome thank you man that's really kind of crazy like i didn't realize it's been that long but i remember when it was blowing up everybody was talking about it back at the store they were talking about how

[2:52:57] You guys are doing these shows on the road and selling out places and killing it. Yeah, 2011. That's crazy. That's crazy. We got like over 300 apps now. It's amazing, dude. Congratulations. That's wild. It's really fucking awesome. Thank you, bud. That's a huge accomplishment. And it's got such an awesome following, too. I mean, you guys have a huge following. Yeah, the fans are great. The fans are great. And you're at Kill Tony tonight. I'm at Kill Tony tonight. I'm touring right now. I'm doing the Chicago Theater in November. Oh, that's a great place. The Beacon, the Ryman. [2:53:27] dates. It's on SavileCanoComedy.com. Beautiful. Yeah. Alright, brother. Good to see you, my man. It's good to come back, man. Thanks for having me. My pleasure. Thanks for being here. Alright. Bye, everybody. [2:53:50] This episode is brought to you by the Farmer's Dog. Here's a fun fact. Research shows that dogs who maintain a healthy weight can live up to two and a half years longer on average than dogs who are overweight. [2:54:01] Isn't that wild and also kind of obvious at the same time? So why is feeding vague scoops of ultra-processed kibble still the status quo for most dog owners? Healthy alternatives exist, and trust me, I know. [2:54:15] I buy one, the Farmer's Dog. I use it for both my dogs. They love it. They eat it up quick. It smells good to them. It smells good to me. It's human-grade food. The Farmer's Dog makes fresh food for dogs, and my dogs love it. Their recipes are made with real meat and fresh vegetables that are gently cooked to retain vital nutrients. They also portion out the meals to your dog's nutritional needs, which helps avoid overfeeding and makes weight management easier and isn't getting more time.

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