MURDERED: Denise Johnson
After more than two decades of rumors and secrets, the question still remains, who killed Denise Johnson? You can listen on any podcast app for free or visit www.counterclockpodcast.com Source for this episode: Investigative Journalist Delia D'Ambra Don’t miss out on all things Crime Junkie! - Instagram: @crimejunkiepodcast | @audiochuck - Twitter: @CrimeJunkiePod | @audiochuck - TikTok: @crimejunkiepodcast - Facebook: /CrimeJunkiePodcast | /audiochuckllc Crime Junkie is hosted by Ashley Flowers and Brit Prawat. - Instagram: @ashleyflowers | @britprawat - Twitter: @Ash_Flowers | @britprawat - TikTok: @ashleyflowerscrimejunkie - Facebook: /AshleyFlowers.AF Text Ashley at +[redacted phone] to talk all things true crime, get behind the scenes updates, random photos of Chuck, and more! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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[01:35] Hi, crime junkies. Ashley Flowers here. And on a Thursday, I wanted to drop into your feed to tell you a little mini story of a case that I've become obsessed with over the last year. I don't have enough to do a full story, but I figured that your curious crime junkie minds work like mine do, and you want to know everything I do. So let me tell you about the murder of Denise Johnson. [02:03] *music* [02:34] A year ago, I met an investigative crime reporter named Delia D'Ambra. And Delia told me about the one case that haunts her most, a case from her hometown that she's devoted the last two years of her life to solving. And I couldn't help but get sucked in. Delia grew up in the Outer Banks of North Carolina, which before this story, I didn't know anything about until I visited there myself after I became obsessed with this case. [03:04] like little small beach towns right on the water. And most of the big homes there are either rentals or at least rented out to vacationers. But there is a small local population that stays there all year round.
[03:17] Delia was one of those locals growing up, and she grew up hearing about another local who was murdered when Delia was just a young child. And it was a woman named Denise Johnson. In 1997, Denise was 33 years old, and at the time, she lived in this little two-bedroom cottage in the town of Kill Devil Hills with a female roommate who had just recently moved in. [03:39] Now, the cottage was extra special to Denise because it was the same house that she grew up in as a young child, and they had managed to keep it in the family all these years later. [03:49] Now, Denise's life, by all accounts, was fairly normal. She had steady work. She had a nice little place that was just a couple blocks from the beach. She was one of six girls. She was the baby, actually. And all six sisters were close, and many of them still lived in the area and saw her often. She also had a wonderful prophet named Kayridge, who she absolutely adored. [04:19] entire Johnson family. [04:21] It all started with a call to 911. [04:24] Someone on Norfolk Street, which is the street that Denise lived on, was calling to report a fire. Smoke was clearly coming out of a house on that person's street, and the caller asked the dispatcher to send the fire department right away. [04:38] Now, when firefighters responded, at first, I'm sure it seemed like a very manageable scene. Yeah, there was a lot of smoke, but it's not like flames were licking up the walls or pouring out of the windows. They went inside and per their training, the first thing they do is make sure that no one was in the house. Now, again, this is a small place, but the firefighters still split up when they get inside to cover the entire place quickly. Living room, clear. Kitchen, clear. First bedroom by the door, clear.
[05:08] And that's when they see her. Beneath all the smoke, there is a body laying face down on the floor, half in the bathroom, and completely nude. Okay. [05:18] The firefighter's first priority is always rescue, so they pull her out of the house and lay her flat in her driveway. And in the glow of police and firetruck lights, they realize that there would be no saving her. Denise had stab wounds around her neck and it was clear that she was already gone. [05:37] So attention returned to putting out the fire. But the fire was strange. It wasn't one big fire. And like I said, there were a crazy amount of flames. There were a bunch of tiny fires set throughout the house. [05:54] Once the dust settles and the fires are out, it's clear that they have a homicide investigation on their hands. And as much as possible is done to preserve the scene. But it's hard to preserve a lot from a scene that has been blasted with a fire hose, you know. All in all, 59 pieces of evidence were collected and cataloged. And in that first day, investigators were sure that this was going to be an open and shut case. The crime seemed so personal. [06:24] had to have been someone that knew her, someone that was in her house. But [06:29] Who? [06:30] Now, police start piecing together Denise's last movements on the night that she died. Surely that would lead them to her killer. But they didn't have much to go on. Denise got off work. She stopped by this convenience store near her house, maybe talked to a woman there, but no one could ever track that person down. And then she went home to an empty house because her roommate was out that night.
[07:00] diluted until eventually it went completely cold. And it was cold like that when Delia decided to turn her attention to the case. Now, Delia started reporting on the case back in 2018 when I met her and I kept asking her a thousand questions about Denise, about the motive, about the crime scene. Everything online just seemed so vague. Like, were there even suspects ever? I was kind of [07:28] What she told me [07:30] It blew my mind. Nothing in this case is what I thought it was. From the 911 call to the fires to even the way Denise died. Delia has uncovered more than anyone who has ever reported on this case. And I even believe that she's gotten close to possible suspects in a case where I thought there were none. [07:51] I was so enthralled in every detail she told me about the story that I told her, Girl, we have to get as many people to hear this as possible because there is a piece of the puzzle still missing. A piece that I believe one of our listeners could hold. And it could be you. So together, Delia and I reproduced her original reporting and we're releasing 12 episodes that dive into the details of Denise's case and take you as close as anyone has ever gotten to persons of interest and to answers. [08:21] You can listen to the first two episodes of that right now by searching for counterclock wherever you're listening to this right now. That's counterclock, which is all one word. Or you can go to counterclockpodcast.com. And be sure that you hit that subscribe button because this case is unfolding in real time and you won't want to miss any updates that we push out as the investigation unfolds.
[08:51] clock podcast.com to follow along with the case. [08:56] *music* [09:26] Thank you. [09:50] you [09:52] *music* [09:55] *music* [09:57] Crime Junkie is an audio Chuck production. So what do you think, Chuck? Do you approve? [10:05] Okay, Crime Junkies, you know, I absolutely love a twist and a turn, especially when it comes to people who turn out to be someone they're not. That's why I have been obsessed with the podcast Chameleon. Every Thursday, host Josh Dean deep dives into a scam so bizarre, it will leave you wondering, how did they get away with that?
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